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First, for myself, it's not about "eternal life". I'm in it to become a more human, Human Being. But also, I think by now you can see why I no longer can call myself a Christian. Today the only Holy Script that I read is the Sacred Manuscript of Nature. It's the ONLY Sacred Text directly written by the hand of God and signed off with His very own signature.Yes, but not everyone has eternal life.
That's why He gave us the Great Commission.
Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
What do you think mission fields are?
Ya ... well the Bible has a lot to say about the heart, including ...I ware a Heart full of Love.
First, for myself, it's not about "eternal life". I'm in it to become a more human, Human Being. But also, I think by now you can see why I no longer can call myself a Christian. Today the only Holy Script that I read is the Sacred Manuscript of Nature. It's the ONLY Sacred Text directly written by the hand of God and signed off with His very own signature.
You can read the skeptics Bible if you want. That is only one book. Every science book that has ever been written shows us how accurate and true the Bible is. Even properly understood the skeptics Bible proves the word of God is true. Because we are told in Romans 1:28 "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient". So at the end when you are judged your glass alibi shatters before the throne of God and you have nothing to defend yourself. Even you fail to substantiate your logic and reasoning if your appeal is to the skeptics Bible.
Even if we were to allow you your one book. You have one book on your side of the scale and we have every science book ever written on the other side of the balance. Actually the study of language itself written or otherwise substantiates how accurate and true the Bible is. So the bottom line is that it all comes down to what is properly understood and what is not.
Science can claim to be agnostic. They can claim we do not know where all the natural laws and the laws of the universe and science comes from. They can not claim that the laws have always existed because now Science testifies that there was a beginning even a beginning of time itself at the big bang. So if you want to say there was a beginning then you prove the Bible true because the first word in the Bible is Beginning. If you want to say there was no beginning then you prove the Bible is true because God was in the Beginning and He has to beginning.
I am not going to get into a discussion of the duel nature of the universe. (Positive negative neutral) and that God is a singularity. 2Thes2 "11 For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie, 12 in order that judgment will come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.…"
The Book of Mormon contains the testimony of eleven people aside from Joseph Smith who affirm that they have seen the miraculous Golden Plates from which their holy book was translated with the help of magical stones and enchanted breastplates. And yet, we can probably agree that neither those plates nor the magical implements ever existed.Au contraire.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
God watches over what I say. So I have to be very careful. God gave us the Bible, and God gives us Science. He does not contradict Himself. Only infidels with a reprobate mind get it confused and even that is of God because He gives them over to that.And I thought lying was a sin.
There is no evidence that the plates did not exist.yet, we can probably agree that neither those plates
God watches over what I say. So I have to be very careful. God gave us the Bible, and God gives us Science. He does not contradict Himself. Only infidels with a reprobate mind get it confused and even that is of God because He gives them over to that.
It's all good. As I've gone down this track I'm on these days, I find myself more blessed in God than I have been my entire life. It's really amazing to see the Light of God everywhere one turns. I wouldn't change that for anything.
There is also no evidence that there's no teapot floating in the rings of saturn, but that doesn't mean there is.There is no evidence that the plates did not exist.
Then what was the second half of that sentence for?A religious text making such claims isn't exactly a reliable testimony.
If you're going to invoke the first half of that sentence, you're going to have to invoke the second half as well.You've got earthquakes and dead saints walking the street, yet no one seems to have witnessed any of that.
But you're contradicting the part in the Scriptures that indeed says witnesses were there.You've got earthquakes and dead saints walking the street; a religious text making such claims isn't exactly a reliable testimony.
I think it's 37 times or something like that in the Bible where Christians are told not to judge others.Only infidels with a reprobate mind get it confused and even that is of God because He gives them over to that.
Then what was the second half of that sentence for?
Here is what you said:
If you're going to invoke the first half of that sentence, you're going to have to invoke the second half as well.
I could understand it if you would have said:
But you're contradicting the part in the Scriptures that indeed say witnesses were there.
In other words, you're acting like you were there as well.
A fallacy I see in a lot of unbelievers' posting style.
That is not what I said. You are already twisting my words trying to claim I said something I did not say. Because you can not answer for what I really said. So I will say it again. God gave us the Bible, the written word of God and God gives us Science. God can not contradict Himself. There are many ways to look at this. But lets us look from this perspective. IF you want to say there is no God still we have all the natural laws and no where does the Bible violate or break any of the natural laws or the laws of Science. So if you want to say there is no God that does not change anything because all of Science shows us that the Bible is accurate and true.I expect you to substantiate the claims that science books prove that God exists.
If we're all sons of God, should scientists intuitively agree with your Sacred Manuscript of Nature?I think it's 37 times or something like that in the Bible where Christians are told not to judge others.
I am not judging anyone. It is not my place to judge anyone. That is the job of the angels at the end of the age. Jesus tells us to let the wheat and the tares grow together. If you somehow missed it the discussion has to do with the skeptics Bible.I think it's 37 times or something like that in the Bible where Christians are told not to judge others.
Here we go with the diabolical mimicry, followed by "let's throw the baby out with the bathwater" again.Sticking to the analogy of the golden plates:
That's nice.Jane_the_Bane said:... if it weren't for the sheer absurdity of Smith's historical claims regarding pre-Columbian history, his testimony and the one given by his eleven followers would actually be on slightly safer footing than the Biblical one regarding an earthquake, an eclipse and dead saints in the streets.
That event was a partial fulfillment of an Old Testament prophecy.Jane_the_Bane said:The events Matthew injects into the Resurrection account are not mentioned anywhere else, *least* of all in any exta-biblical source. If that does not give you pause: again, I've got some very interesting items you might be interested in buying.
Not all are Sons of God, some are Manifest Sons of God. "For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God." Romans 8:19If we're all sons of God
That is not what I said. You are already twisting my words trying to claim I said something I did not say. Because you can not answer for what I really said. So I will say it again. God gave us the Bible, the written word of God and God gives us Science. God can not contradict Himself. There are many ways to look at this. But lets us look from this perspective. IF you want to say there is no God still we have all the natural laws and no where does the Bible violate or break any of the natural laws or the laws of Science. So if you want to say there is no God that does not change anything because all of Science shows us that the Bible is accurate and true.
The Bible is Infinite. That means there is no beginning & there no end, the Bible goes on forever in wisdom, knowledge and understand. Science is limited. For example when I say every Science book in the world, that is a limited number of books. The Bible talks about beginnings and even we are told that God
I do appreciate you pointing out to me that you did not understand what am saying.
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