My Cosmic Evolution Challenge

[AV1611VET]

I've just been told that there is no such field of study as Cosmic Evolution.

Let's settle this issue once and for all.

Is Cosmic Evolution taught in higher academia?

I say YES.

First of all, QV this picture from Harvard:

Second of all, read what it says:

'The arrow of time, from origin of the Universe to the present and beyond, spans several major epochs throughout all of history. Cosmic evolution is the study of the many varied changes in the assembly and composition of energy, matter and life in the thinning and cooling Universe.'

Thirdly, GOOGLE "college courses on cosmic evolution" and see for yourself what comes up.

What say you?

 

[Speedwell]

So what?

 

[mathinspiration]

How does this contradict or similar to traditional views of evolution or creationism.

 

[AV1611VET]

Is Cosmic Evolution taught in higher academia?

So what?

How does this contradict or similar to traditional views of evolution or creationism.

This is a simple YES or NO challenge.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I've just been told that there is no reputable field of study as Cosmic Evolution.

Assuming you're referring to this comment

"Cosmic evolution is the study of . . ." is misleading, since there is no such field of study as "cosmic evolution".

that's a dishonest statement.

Is Cosmic Evolution taught in higher academia?

As a field of study? No.

You are (wilfully?) conflating the title of an optional course at one university with a field of study pursued in higher academia.

 

[AV1611VET]

Assuming you're referring to this comment.

It is.

that's a dishonest statement.

MaBybe that's what he truly believes?

Who'd have thought AV would start a thread based on something he knows to be false?

Yes, but he doesn't know it's false ... as far as I know.

I'm not buying his statement.

Thus this challenge.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

It is.MaBybe that's what he truly believes?Yes, but he doesn't know it's false ... as far as I know.

The false statement is yours. You need to learn to read.

I'm not buying his statement.

Thus this challenge.

That's fine. But I just showed you to be in error, so /thread.

 

[AV1611VET]

/thread.

Before you go, do you mind answering the OP?

I even edited it from "reputable" to "such".

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Before you go, do you mind answering the OP?

I even edited it from "reputable" to "such".

Answered in my edited post. But I'll repost here:

As a field of study? No.

You are (wilfully?) conflating the title of an optional course at one university with a field of study pursued in higher academia.

 

[AV1611VET]

You are (wilfully?) conflating the title of an optional course at one university with a field of study pursued in higher academia.

One university???

Did you GOOGLE "college courses on cosmic evolution" like I did?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

One university???

Did you GOOGLE "college courses on cosmic evolution" like I did?

Yes I did. I found an optional course at Harvard and a couple of seminars elsewhere. Is that what you consider to be teaching an entire field of study in higher academia?

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes I did. I found an optional course at Harvard and a couple of seminars elsewhere. Is that what you consider to be teaching an entire field of study in higher academia?

Is Cosmic Evolution taught in higher academia? YES or NO?

And what is keeping you from understanding such a simple question?

Now you know why I call these CHALLENGE THREADS, don't you?

 

[Speedwell]

Is Cosmic Evolution taught in higher academia? YES or NO?

And what is keeping you from understanding such a simple question?

Now you know why I call these CHALLENGE THREADS, don't you?

Since you googled it yourself you ought to know. "Cosmic evolution" appears to be the name given to survey courses and popular science literature as a way of combining information from a wide variety of fields in a coherent and easily understandable way. It is not, itself, a field of scientific endeavor.

 

[AV1611VET]

Since you googled it yourself you ought to know. "Cosmic evolution" appears to be the name given to survey courses and popular science literature as a way of combining information from a wide variety of fields in a coherent and easily understandable way.

Ya ... like eight different fields of evolution into one, called Cosmic Evolution.

Like taking our 26 letters and calling them the Alphabet.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Ya ... like eight different fields of evolution into one, called Cosmic Evolution.

Like taking our 26 letters and calling them the Alphabet.

If everyone did it then I'd say you have a point. But a handful of people using the title on 3 or 4 seminars doesn't really have that same impact. AV just accept you chose a losing horse in this race.

 

[DogmaHunter]

I've just been told that there is no such field of study as Cosmic Evolution.

Let's settle this issue once and for all.

Is Cosmic Evolution taught in higher academia?

I say YES.

First of all, QV this picture from Harvard:

Second of all, read what it says:

'The arrow of time, from origin of the Universe to the present and beyond, spans several major epochs throughout all of history. Cosmic evolution is the study of the many varied changes in the assembly and composition of energy, matter and life in the thinning and cooling Universe.'

Thirdly, GOOGLE "college courses on cosmic evolution" and see for yourself what comes up.

What say you?

I say that you need to be intellectually honest and understand that "evolution" is also simply an english word used to describe how a state of any given thing changes, evolves, over time.

While "change over time" indeed is an important part of the definition of biological evolution, you should realise that "the theory of evolution" concerns a very specific process in the field of biology - which has no relevance to any other sentence in different context where the english word "evolution" is used.


Having said that, your picture is some sort of "big picture" thing that depicts the evolution (in the english sense - not the biological sense) of the universe and everything in it from the very beginning of time till today.

That, by itself, is NOT some scientific field.
In fact, actual scientific fields dedicate themselves to just one part, within a well defined scope, of that bigger picture.

Biology is a field.
Chemistry is a field.
Astronomy.
Cosmology.
Astro physics.
etc etc etc.

All of which, are depicted on that picture, one way or another.

 

[AirPo]

You are (wilfully?) conflating the title of an optional course at one university with a field of study pursued in higher academia.

Well of course.

 

[Speedwell]

I say that you need to be intellectually honest and understand that "evolution" is also simply an english word used to describe how a state of any given thing changes, evolves, over time.

While "change over time" indeed is an important part of the definition of biological evolution, you should realise that "the theory of evolution" concerns a very specific process in the field of biology - which has no relevance to any other sentence in different context where the english word "evolution" is used.


Having said that, your picture is some sort of "big picture" thing that depicts the evolution (in the english sense - not the biological sense) of the universe and everything in it from the very beginning of time till today.

That, by itself, is NOT some scientific field.
In fact, actual scientific fields dedicate themselves to just one part, within a well defined scope, of that bigger picture.

Biology is a field.
Chemistry is a field.
Astronomy.
Cosmology.
Astro physics.
etc etc etc.

All of which, are depicted on that picture, one way or another.

He just wants to lump them all together because they all, in one way or another, undermine his interpretation of scripture. All part of the same atheistic socialist conspiracy, don't you know.

 

[AV1611VET]

If everyone did it then I'd say you have a point. But a handful of people using the title on 3 or 4 seminars doesn't really have that same impact. AV just accept you chose a losing horse in this race.

I'll pass.

Instead, I'll accept that they know something you don't.

 

[AV1611VET]

I say that you need to be intellectually honest and understand that "evolution" is also simply an english word used to describe how a state of any given thing changes, evolves, over time.

Care to tell us what the Cosmic Evolution Survey is?