My Colorado Challenge

[Larniavc]

If the Grand Canyon was formed by the Colorado River, wouldn't you expect it to be widest at the top than at the bottom?

Yes I would.

And it is.

 

[AV1611VET]

Right -- now take that thinking and apply it on a larger, not smaller, scale.

Only try that with a giant cake, instead of paper, and see if any "cracks" show up.

Take a giant cake and tear it into five big pieces, without creating any fault lines or wrinkles or anything marring the surface of the five pieces.

Good luck.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes I would.

And it is.

Then how would it be indistinguishable from it being formed by being pulled apart in an instant?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Only try that with a giant cake, instead of paper, and see if any "cracks" show up.

Take a giant cake and tear it into five big pieces, without creating any fault lines or wrinkles or anything marring the surface of the five pieces.

Good luck.

Well, assuming the Earth's surface has the consistency of cake, wouldn't the faultlines and wrinkles appear at the tears?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Then how would it be indistinguishable from it being formed by being pulled apart in an instant?

Did God pull only at that exact spot? I thought you were going with a "he reached down with his big, strong hands and pulled all the continents apart" sort of thing.

 

[Larniavc]

Then how would it be indistinguishable from it being formed by being pulled apart in an instant?

Finger prints.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, assuming the Earth's surface has the consistency of cake, wouldn't the faultlines and wrinkles appear at the tears?

The fact of the matter is: neither one of us was there.

Peleg would know ... we wouldn't.

 

[AV1611VET]

Did God pull only at that exact spot? I thought you were going with a "he reached down with his big, strong hands and pulled all the continents apart" sort of thing.

He didn't pull the continents apart.

He pulled Eden (Pangaea) apart.

Last I checked, North America is still pretty much one continent.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The fact of the matter is: neither one of us was there.

Peleg would know ... we wouldn't.

But when we tear up a cake, we know what it looks like -- are you abandoning your metaphor so quickly?

 

[TLK Valentine]

He didn't pull the continents apart.

He pulled Eden (Pangaea) apart.

Last I checked, North America is still pretty much one continent.

Actually, according to you, it's 1/7th of a continent. (1/6 if you buy into "Eurasia")

So if God did this, why is there only one Grand Canyon? And why is it the "Grand" one? If you're anything even remotely close to right, we should see far "grander" canyons all over the planet, at all the stress points where God allegedly pulled Eden (Pangaea) apart.

 

[AV1611VET]

Actually, according to you, it's 1/7th of a continent. (1/6 if you buy into "Eurasia")

What???

Eden (Pangaea) was one landmass at one time.

Then God pulled it apart into five large continents.

So if God did this, why is there only one Grand Canyon?

I take it you don't like God's landscaping?

And why is it the "Grand" one?

Because God don't make junk?

If you're anything even remotely close to right, we should see far "grander" canyons all over the planet,

Really?

Who's the landscaper here? the God of the universe (JEHOVAH), or the goddess of science (MOTHER NATURE)?

 

[AirPo]

I can't believe this already has even this many replies. AV, you should be getting paid for this. You're the P.T. Barnum of CF.

Execpt we don't pay for it and we don't buy it.

 

[AirPo]

That your challenge is null.

Why?

Because it's like asking "If red was red, wouldn't it be red?" or "If six was six, wouldn't it be six?"

 

[TLK Valentine]

Execpt we don't pay for it and we don't buy it.

PT Barnum was successful, talented, and his lies were at least entertaining.

 

[keith99]

Actually, according to you, it's 1/7th of a continent. (1/6 if you buy into "Eurasia")

So if God did this, why is there only one Grand Canyon? And why is it the "Grand" one? If you're anything even remotely close to right, we should see far "grander" canyons all over the planet, at all the stress points where God allegedly pulled Eden (Pangaea) apart.

There are several canyons larger than The Grand Canyon in America. One of them actually has Grand Canyon as part of its name!

Canyon - Wikipedia

 

[VirOptimus]

If the Grand Canyon was formed when God pulled Eden (Pangaea) apart in Peleg's time, how would it be indistinguishable in form (wider at the top, narrower at the bottom) from what it looks like today?

If you wanna invoke magic then everything is possible and therefore it has no explanatory power.

 

[AV1611VET]

If you wanna invoke magic ...

I'll pass.

Miracles can do much more than magic.

 

[VirOptimus]

I'll pass.

Miracles can do much more than magic.

Miracles is magic by another name, the two terms are interchangable by any reasonable definition.

 

[AV1611VET]

Miracles is magic by another name, the two terms are interchangable by any reasonable definition.

And we can count on unbelievers interchanging them, can't we?

 

[VirOptimus]

And we can count on unbelievers interchanging them, can't we?

I dont care if you are a beliver or not. Words have meanings, I use the ones that I find correct.