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Uphill Battle

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no, no. Nothing so insidious as that.

but for example.

Author 1 has preset assumptions regarding a subject. His paradigm.

Peer has same assumptions. Liklihood of a problem between the paradigms is rather low.

Author 2 has preset assumptions regarding a subject. HIS paradigm.

Same peer as above does not hold the same paradigm. Liklihood of a problem between the paradigms is high.

follow what I'm meaning?

you can give me whatever you wish regarding the halos. I'm not going to debate specifics on this thread, given that I assume that isn't what it was about.
 
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(for instance, I've never once seen a satisfactory rebuttal to the "halos in the rock" argument, only the "that's a PRATT, no point in talking about it" mindset.


Sorry you were treated that way. Here's the quick summary rebuttal to Gnetry's polonium halo work;

1. Halos are made by alpha particles from radioactive decay. Gentry cannot discern between halos made by uranium decay, thorium decay, polonium decay or any other sort of radioactive decay (nor can anybody else), because all of these elements decay by emitting alpha particles. Only polonium decay would provide Gentry's desired age of the Earth, but the halos cannot be definitively pegged to the radioactive decay of any one element.

2. Gentry says all of his samples consist of "primordial crust" rock samples, but he has never provided any third party with enough information to identify which rock strata he has actually taken them from, nor has he provided rock samples for others to evaluate (or, enough information for them to go collect their own from the same strata). He bases the age of the planet on his analysis of these samples, but fails to actually establish that they are, in fact, from strata that represent the early earth.

link for further techno-speak;
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/po-halos/gentry.html
 
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Science is based on as few assumptions as possible, so the chances of any severe errors actually taking off are very low. I acknowledge the possibility, though.

And that's fair enough, we don't want to derail this thread. I guess we're done here?
 
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