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Personally I think the opposite.The question though is:
Are we the products of a universal natural disaster?
If the BB was responsible for the life on earth and the ultimate violence and poverty then I would say it was a disaster.
In any event, it's good to see you again, welcome back.
A disaster implies a loss of something ...
Shemjaza said:... and the big bang is what allowed ...
Shemjaza said:... all the wonders of the Earth and the people who live here to even exist.
Shemjaza said:(I guess the Heat Death is ultimately a natural disaster, but it's so slow, so long away and so final that it's easier to be philosophical about it.)
Like a primordial atom losing it primacy? or a diamond ring losing its preciousness?
Interesting word choice.
Yes, indeed.
But aren't we alive today because of a natural disaster?
In fact, aren't we the products of this natural disaster?
Translation: Who cares? As long as it's not on my watch.
I'm just trying to ascertain if the BB should be considered a universal natural disaster or not.
I think the only thing precious about it was what it could become.
After having produced life, then destroying it by way of Malthusian catastrophes?
If it follows the fountain model, it's going to go back to where it came from.
Whether I agree with that aside (which I don't), even if it did go back to where it came from, it was by way of a universal natural disaster ... right?
It still doesn't make sense to apply the disaster label to the phase of the process before anything relevant is destroyed... given that it is actually necessary for anything novel to even exist.Thermal equilibrium?
After having produced life, then destroying it by way of Malthusian catastrophes?
Are you are trying to apply some kind of moral agency or judgement on the Big Bang?
Yes, but they don't seem to... and you seem singularly dissatisfied with that response. If you disagree, why don't you try to engage with people on their reasoning?I'd like to know if anyone thinks Atom-to-Adam evolution is by way of a universal natural disaster.
Yep. only another 4 billion years to goTYVM, Shemjaza!
And a Merry Christmas to you as well!
And just so you know, the universe will strike us down in a heartbeat if we make the slightest mistake.
And even if we don't make any mistakes, it's just a matter of time before ... you know ... the curtain falls.
And from a natural point-of-view, it's just a matter of time before thermodynamics catches up with everything.
Thats nice.He who walks east has the west at his back.
Given that you are inventing your "Atom-to-Adam evolution", from pure nothing.I'd like to know if anyone thinks Atom-to-Adam evolution is by way of a universal natural disaster.
And the answer is "NO".The question though is:
Are we the products of a universal natural disaster?
And the answer is "NO".
The linear view.Thermal equilibrium?
After having produced life, then destroying it by way of Malthusian catastrophes?
The linear view.
Try the cyclic view.
All things have happened before, and will happen again.
As far as it being a disaster on a universal scale, that remains to be seen, I guess, but to whose perspective do we appeal? Whose perspective is such that they can make that judgment?
Evolution is a natural process. Genetic self replication, with occasional flaws that get filtered by environmental pressures.I disagree.
Had the Primordial Atom stayed primordial, we wouldn't be here discussing this.*
* Please note, I'm posting from the assumption that evolution is a natural process. Personally though, I believe God created the universe in six days.
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