My Bad Seed Challenge

[joshua 1 9]

There was never a global flood. Science can trace the break up of Pangaea,

What I am talking about is the ice age that brought the Jurassic Period to an end. Science may not recognize the flood that took place before the Ice Age but they do recognize the Ice Age that took place at that time or era.

In what way is Noah's flood a "shadow and type" of the break up of Pangaea?

Shadow and type is the term used in the Bible. Perhaps the best term to use would be allegory. These things are an allegory, beside the literal and historical sense of the words, the Spirit of God points out something further. The Bible is given as a lesson for us to learn. Jesus use to speak in proverbs or parables. To believers He would speak in plain language and explain the meaning of His proverbs or parables.

"Then Jesus' disciples said, "Now you are speaking clearly and without figures of speech." John 16:29

This is why people that are perishing do not understand the Bible because the ability to understand has not been given to them.

 

[Jimmy D]

What I am talking about is the ice age that brought the Jurassic Period to an end. Science may not recognize the flood that took place before the Ice Age but they do recognize the Ice Age that took place at that time or era.

You were talking about the break up of Pangaea, I quoted you in the post you just answered.....

Yes there was a global flood at the time of the breakup of Pangea. Noah's flood was just a shadow and type of the flood that took place when that super-continent was broken up.

Anyway, never mind if you don't want to talk about it, I assume you've realized your mistake.

If you think that there was a flood that caused mass extinctions globally I'll look forward to discussing it.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I'll take what actual scientists assert over

There is nothing OVER anything. Science gives us evidence and proof for the Bible and there is no contradictions between true Science and the Bible. We can ONLY add to what Science already knows, we take nothing away from Science. In fact it is the skeptics and scoffers that want to hide the truth and take away the freedom that people have.

 

[joshua 1 9]

You were talking about the break up of Pangaea, I quoted you in the post you just answered.....

Yes we are talking about the break up of Pangaea. There are some people that believe there was a flood at the time of the break up of Pangaea. There is no question that Science tells us that there was an Ice Age that followed the break up of Pangaea.

 

[joshua 1 9]

If you think that there was a flood that caused mass extinctions globally I'll look forward to discussing it.

There have been many extinctions followed by explosions or radiations. There was a mass extinction 12,900 years ago at the end of the last ice age that preceded the age or era that we currently life in.

The Bible is written the way the Bible is written because these are established patterns or ways that God does what He does. There have been SIX extinctions. The Bible takes about the 6 days of creation. Look at the Garden of Eden. There are clearly many Edens in this world. On land and in the Sea. In addition to the Eden in the Middle East there was a Eden in Africa, there was a Eden in the Yellow River area of China, there was a Eden in Mesoamerica. Corn comes from America, Rice comes from China and Wheat comes from the Middle East. This was the main gain of each of these "Edens". Even today people in the East much prefer rice and they eat different food then they do in the Middle East and what we eat here in America.

There is a Bible Adam and Eve and Eden. Also there is a Science or Time Magazine: Adam, Eve and Eden. If you use a Bible Dictionary or a Science Dictionary your going to get different definitions.

 

[Jimmy D]

There have been many extinctions followed by explosions or radiations. There was a mass extinction 12,900 years ago at the end of the last ice age that preceded the age or era that we currently life in.

The Bible is written the way the Bible is written because these are established patterns or ways that God does what He does. There have been SIX extinctions. The Bible takes about the 6 days of creation. Look at the Garden of Eden. There are clearly many Edens in this world. On land and in the Sea. In addition to the Eden in the Middle East there was a Eden in Africa, there was a Eden in the Yellow River area of China, there was a Eden in Mesoamerica. Corn comes from America, Rice comes from China and Wheat comes from the Middle East. This was the main gain of each of these "Edens". Even today people in the East much prefer rice and they eat different food then they do in the Middle East and what we eat here in America.

There is a Bible Adam and Eve and Eden. Also there is a Science or Time Magazine: Adam, Eve and Eden. If you use a Bible Dictionary or a Science Dictionary your going to get different definitions.

I'm aware there have been mass extinctions, what I'm getting at is that there have been no mass extinctions caused by floods, so the story of Noah is obviously not based in reality.

I'd accept it's possible that it's a myth that came about from stories of local flooding though.

It seems that from what you're saying you also that you don't really accept much of the Creation story as it's told either. You're obviously aware that farming sprang up in different places independently around the globe so have to try to force fit this into your interpretation which is moving further away from what was actually written all the time.

So-called genetic Y-chromosomal "Adam" & Mitochondrial "Eve" are simply catchy nicknames taken from the biblical characters, there is no real connection with the bible.

 

[Kylie]

What are you talking about? My whole point was that it is a myth that pre civilization man only lived to be 35. So if you disagree with science then that means you agree with me. Lets go back to the start. All I am asking is for you to show me the remains of a pre civilized person that science can show us lived PAST their prime. So far you have failed to meet my challenge. You have failed to show that prehistoric people aged the way people began to age AFTER Noah's Flood. Because God established a New Covenant with Noah and Noah's descendants. This was the beginning of a new dispensation.

I haven't seen you produce any evidence that people aged until 30-something and then lived for hundreds of years in those 30-something bodies.

Can you provide such evidence?

 

[Jimmy D]

Yes we are talking about the break up of Pangaea. There are some people that believe there was a flood at the time of the break up of Pangaea. There is no question that Science tells us that there was an Ice Age that followed the break up of Pangaea.

Who believes that there was a flood at the time of the break up of Pangaea? The continents took over a hundred million years to get to their current positions and the 'break up' of Pangaea is still occurring today. What you are saying makes no sense.

 

[Mr Laurier]

This classic scene is from a classic movie called The Bad Seed:

The explanation for her behavior is as follows:

SOURCE

What kind of evolution is this?

Whatever kind you want it to be.

 

[AV1611VET]

Whatever kind you want it to be.

Wasn't that science at one time?

 

[Mr Laurier]

Wasn't that science at one time?

No. It wasnt.
It was a movie. An old thriller from a bygone era.

 

[AV1611VET]

No. It wasnt.
It was a movie. An old thriller from a bygone era.

Old thrillers from bygone eras had tendencies to be based on science.

Yes -- some junk science, like Frankenstein and Them!

Others quasi-science, like Fahrenheit 451 and The Hellstrom Chronicle.

Or The Legend of Boggy Creek.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Old thrillers from bygone eras had tendencies to be based on science.

Yes -- some junk science, like Frankenstein and Them!

Others quasi-science, like Fahrenheit 451 and The Hellstrom Chronicle.

Or The Legend of Boggy Creek.

Note the word "junk" in there.