Im pretty sure we were talking about living recognizable things created spontaneously without any input from existing
I dont think ANYONE else here, or elsewhere, is talking about abiogenesis as "living recognizable things created spontaneously without any input from existing [life]".
This is your formulation.
The earliest thing we recognise as life was probably a form of simple photosynthetic bacteria, which may be as much as 3.8 billion years old. It took billions and billions of years before these started to become more complex. The fossils we have from 1.1 billion to 800 million years ago are still really basic compared to existing bacteria.
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