Must be more of that vaunted liberal tolerance...

Too funny - in an embarrassing sort of way.

Aren't these Bush-hating liberals supposed to love everybody?

You know who else protests thing?
Obama.
Does Obama hit people in wheel chairs?
We don't know, and he's not saying.
Choose your America.
tulc(sorry, couldn't resist)

Panzerkampfwagen said:

Bush heckler arrested for punching a wheel-chair bound girl.

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Since Obama has promised to surrender in Iraq, and pull the troops out of there, this problem should not reoccur if he gets elected. This offender who punched the wheelchair bound girl will likely receive amnesty like Carter did for the Vietnam draft dodgers

Aren't these Bush-hating liberals supposed to love everybody?

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...where in the story does it say he was a liberal?
tulc(he's a moron yes no matter what he believes but he could be one of yours just as much as one of ours)

The fact that he was cussing out the Bushes about Iraq and Iran kind of gives it away.

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...there are no conservatives that are against the war? And none of them are stupid enough or drunk enough to do something like this?
tulc(true, he probably is one of ours but the article doesn't mention anything but him doing stupid things the rest is just conjecture)

Check out a video of this crazy piece of trash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlvMl6R3rJQ&eurl=http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/

He's a troofer, of course.

BTW, this nutjob claims that he's innocent and it was in fact him that was attacked. Listen to this:

"Gary Talis also appeared on Jones’ show. He emphatically stated he did not assault the handicapped girl. In fact, he said, John Lovetro used his daughter “as a weapon” against him, ramming the wheelchair into his kneecaps and accusing him of attacking the girl. Talis told Bermas he believes the attack was coordinated."

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And at another point Gary states that the father of the girl weighed 400 pounds. Yup, it's a conspiracy theory involving a massive body builder ramming the silly paranoid nut with his daughter. Anyone need further proof of the derangement of the truthers?

EDIT: Ooh, I found more. These paranoid sociopaths put the phone number and address of the family up on the internet:

I think John Lovetro needs to be confronted about his out of control lying behavior. A little public humiliation works wonders but don't get to close, he is an attack dog! You can contact him at: ###-###-### (number has been temporarily disconnected) and you can write or visit him at XXXX Street, XXXXXX, NY XXXX. What a piece of filth! I'm sure his wife and daughter are very proud of him today!

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Not only did that poor girl get beat, but now her and her family are going to be constantly harassed by a bunch of smelly, drugged out hippies for months. Not to mention with how unbalanced some of these people are it could end in violence. I'm so disgusted by this. I actually almost wish their crazy theories were true, and they'd get shipped off to Guantanamo. The world would be a better place.


And yet more, he's an interview that trash-boy gave:

Bermas: Did you hit a girl in a wheelchair?

Talis: Mmmm-mmmm (Unclear). I couldn't believe as I read that in the Post. It's very strange what the person did, he actually used, uh, I believe it was his daughter, he actually used it as a weapon and shield at the same time, very shocking, though, the girl was crying, I was trying to walk away from the incident because it was getting pretty violent, and as soon as I try to walk away, this guy runs at me and hits me in the kneecaps and starts screaming, "Assault, he hit my daughter!" at the same time I'm trying to keep my balance, and I hear a right and a left coming at me, you know this 500-lb, 6 foot something guy, trying to attack me, the next thing I know the police come and handcuff me left and right, swinging me around, trying to get handcuffs on me, actually it kinda looked like they were trying to abuse me, they were really angry, they heard that I hit somebody in a wheelchair (unintelligible) this was the only way the guy could have framed me and it seemed like it was coordinated--

Bermas: Let me get this straight, this is a much bigger guy than you?

Talis: Yeah, he was a much bigger guy, he's like around 400-something pounds.

Bermas: Yeah because I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but you're not a physically intimidating guy, you're a skinny young, who again, you didn't scream any obscenities, did you? I mean you were talking about 9-11 and the Bush crime syndicate.

Talis: Yeah, I was actually intellectually screaming out my statement, what do they want me to do, they're saying I was hackling (sic), I can't really whisper to somebody 20 feet away. They were keeping me away from her, I don't see that as hackling."

Bermas: They're saying you used obscenities and I just want to clear that up as well, you didn't scream any curse words, did you?

Talis: Of course not.

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I stumbled across another video of him recounting his story. It's changed since the last time, now it's even more ridiculous. Apparently poor Gary got beat by a gang of police officers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFSGhyjoltM&eurl=http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/

And he made some awesome comments on his video (edited for profanity):

i wasnt charged for hitting any girl, nor any officer gave a name regarding this false testimony of me hitting a handicap. Youzombie minded floride influenced sheep, who beleive senseless **** dew to the **** for brains you cowards are. Come to my house 464 neptune ave Brooklyn ny, and stand up for what you beleive in...

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Sounds like a total sweetheart to me. Anyone in Brooklyn want to take accept his extremely pacifistic offer?

Panzerkampfwagen said:

The fact that he was cussing out the Bushes about Iraq and Iran kind of gives it away.

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If you had any idea what you were posting, then you'd be embarrased.

tulc said:

You know who else protests thing?
Obama.
Does Obama hit people in wheel chairs?
We don't know, and he's not saying.
Choose your America.
tulc(sorry, couldn't resist)

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rofls.

so, we have the requisite dishonesty in labeling him as a liberal without any evidence of this, the further gross generalization of liberals, and tulc has generously provided the "in" for obama bashing for you guys. all that remains is to tie reverand wright into this somehow and we will have a complete thread - all done in less than 1 page.

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BTW, this nutjob claims that he's innocent and it was in fact him that was attacked. Listen to this:

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Your video seems to interview witnesses that support he was the one attacked rather then the one doing the attacking.

No surprise is it? Look at the protesters in Code Pink who harassed wounded military and their families at Walter Reed Hospital. Going after a child in a wheelchair isn't on a much lower level than that.

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rofls.


so, we have the requisite dishonesty in labeling him as a liberal without any evidence of this,

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We know who has been protesting Bush for the last 8 years don't we? Not a lot of suspects here.

Voegelin said:

No surprise is it? Look at the protesters in Code Pink who harassed wounded military and their families at Walter Reed Hospital. Going after a child in a wheelchair isn't on a much lower level than that.

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Actually when I think about it, it seems like a "frame".

Because it doesn't sound like something someone would really do, attack a child in a wheelchair, I mean how "evil" would he have to be to do such a thing.

Now if you wanted to make someone look evil, that sounds like something one might say. I think this story is much deeper then we are led to believe.

Attacking a child in a wheelchair, I mean come on, with all of those people around as shown in the video? The guy seems calm and rational and just wants to express his opinion. I don't buy he attacked a child in a wheelchair, even the witnesses on the video say he didn't attack anyone.

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Actually when I think about it, it seems like a "frame".

Because it doesn't sound like something someone would really do, attack a child in a wheelchair, I mean how "evil" would he have to be to do such a thing.

Now if you wanted to make someone look evil, that sounds like something one might say. I think this story is much deeper then we are led to believe.

Attacking a child in a wheelchair, I mean come on, with all of those people around as shown in the video? The guy seems calm and rational and just wants to express his opinion. I don't buy he attacked a child in a wheelchair, even the witnesses on the video say he didn't attack anyone.

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Actually, attacking people in wheelchairs i somehting the Democratic Party incorporated into one of their campaign ads recently

imind said:

rofls.

so, we have the requisite dishonesty in labeling him as a liberal without any evidence of this, the further gross generalization of liberals, and tulc has generously provided the "in" for obama bashing for you guys. all that remains is to tie reverand wright into this somehow and we will have a complete thread - all done in less than 1 page.

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Oh, he's definitely a liberal. No dishonesty there. Check out the wearechange website.

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Your video seems to interview witnesses that support he was the one attacked rather then the one doing the attacking.

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A witness. One witness, who just so happened to be Gary's nutjob friend. She also happened to give a very different account then Gary did and neither of their accounts match what we see on the video.

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Actually when I think about it, it seems like a "frame".

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You are correct. The truther nut jobs set this up so they could claim to be victims, knowing that suckers like you would eat it up. Notice how the camera conveniently "breaks during the assault"? The assault being him shaking the camera (I assume, unless he was assaulted by someone else. Notice there is no four hundred pound man anywhere in the vicinity).

Because it doesn't sound like something someone would really do, attack a child in a wheelchair, I mean how "evil" would he have to be to do such a thing.

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The guy is deranged. He's the hero of his own psychotic little adventure movie, where everyone around him are either evil or stupid. He wanted attention, and he got it.

Attacking a child in a wheelchair, I mean come on, with all of those people around as shown in the video?

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No, instead a gigantic four hundred pound man decided to use his crippled daughter as a weapon to bludgeon him with, solely so that he could vilify some stupid paranoid lunatic no one gives a crap about. Oh yeah, and then the police beat him up too.

The guy seems calm and rational and just wants to express his opinion.

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Are we watching the same video? Because I see a guy screaming incoherently at a crowd thoroughly irrational beliefs after he had a completely inane and irrational argument with a secret service agent.


So, what version of their story is correct? Do you think that this guy stood next to Gary with his fist raised and a crazy smile for a couple seconds before nailing him (as the woman attests. Notice that the crazy grinning man with the upraised fist isn't in the video). Or did the guy start harassing Gary (Contrary to the video) causing Gary to peaceably turn around and walk away (again, contrary to the video) before the giant of a man rammed Gary with his paralyzed daughter (in the kneecaps, despite the fact that Gary was supposedly facing the other way). Or how about his claim that the secret service guy wasn't there while he was being attacked despite the fact that you can SEE IN THE VIDEO THAT THE SECRET SERVICE AGENT IS STANDING ABOUT THREE FEET AWAY!

It MUST be a conspiracy to discredit those who know the truth about 9/11, because people take them so seriously right now!

Sounds like he's neither liberal nor conservative, and just a guy out looking for attention. Why else would he jump into an interview acting like the victim. He doesn't care about anything politically. He only cares about getting his face on T.V.

That said, is using this guy as a way to bash liberals in general really any better. Seems more like you're stooping to his level to me. (Just saying.)

Nevermind... Not even worth it.

I see, Panzer. One protestor who got out of hand and punched a wheelchair-bound girl on his own volition is now representative of liberals as a whole?

I expect you, Voegelin, and anyone else trying to criticize all liberals for the actions of this one individual to prove to me that he is representative of all liberals. I won't hold my breath.
Ringo