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Muslims over here please .

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because the US planted bombs in iraqi mosques and blamed it on one side.
The US and zionists figured that if they cannot steal the oil from the iraqis then the second option is to make as much chaos before the bail out as they cannot afford a few billion every day to keep the murdering soldiers there
 
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Shi'a Islam or Shi`ism (from the Arabic word شيعة, Persian: شیعه) is the second largest denomination of the religion of Islam. Shi'a Muslims adhere to what they consider the teachings of the Islamic prophet Muhammad and his Ahlul Bayt (family). Thus, unlike Sunni Muslims, Shi'as reject the rule of the initial three Caliphs. The singular/adjective form is shi`i (Arabic: شيعي.) and refers to a supporter of the Ahlul Bayt and of Ali ibn Abi Talib (Imam Ali) in particular.
The term Shi'a comes from the Arabic word شيعة Shi'a. The singular/adjective form of this name is Arabic shi`i شيعي.
"Shi'a" is the short form of the historic phrase shi`at `Ali شيعة علي, meaning "the advocates of Ali". Sunni and Shi'a sources trace the term to Muhammad himself. The phrase Shi'a of Ali was historically a title given by Muhammad and later by his descendants in praise of Ali's followers and that of the Ahlul Bayt. (See Shi'a etymology.)
Shi'a Muslims believe that Muhammad's family (the 12 Imams) were the best source of knowledge about the Quran, Islam and Emulation, and the most trusted carriers and protectors of Muhammad's Sunnah (traditions) due to many emphasized sayings by him. Ali was Muhammad's cousin, son-in-law, father of his only descendants and the male head of the Ahlul Bayt. After Muhammad's passing, Ali claimed succession in religious and political authority, supported by his family and followers. Shi'as believe that by Muhammad direct order he appointed him successor on many occasions, that he was the rightful leader of the Muslims after Mohammad's passing, and that to follow Muhammad's true Sunnah one must support Ali's successorship.
Shi'as reject the rule of the initial three caliphs who proclaimed leadership after Muhammad's passing, believing them illegitimate and inferior to Muhammad's family in all respects. The caliphs are followed by Sunni Muslims, who believe Muhammad did not choose a successor, and that the caliphs were elected according to what they condsider Muhammad's instruction of consultation (Shura). Thus they reject what they called dynastic rights to religious authority that Shi'as attribute to Muhammad's family. The first caliph, Abu Bakr was chosen after Muhammad's passing at a meeting he had at the saqifah with Umar, another companion of Mohammad. This claim to succession was disputed by Ali, the Banu Hashim whom he headed, and many other supporters.
This difference between following the Ahlul Bayt (Muhammad's family) and Sahaba (Muhammad's companions) has shaped Shi'a and Sunni views on some of the Quran, the hadith, personalities in Islamic history, and more. Hadith that Shi'a accept as authentic have a high proportion of narrators from the Ahl al-Bayt, while hadith Sunnis accept do not.
Regardless of the dispute about the Caliphate, Shi'as regard highly the concept of Imamate, also called Khalifa Ilahi (divinely chosen successorship to Muhammad in terms of teaching the Quran, its meaning, the Shariah and the guides to the right practice of the Quranic faith).
 
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Sunni Muslims are the largest denomination of Islam. They are referred to as Ahl ul-Sunna (Arabic: أهل السنة), the folks of the tradition. The word Sunni comes from the word sunna (Arabic : سنة ) that means the tradition of the prophet of Islam Muhammad. Sunni (Arabic: سني ) means follower of the sunna of the prophet, with some details. The plural of Sunni in Arabic is also sunna.
The word al-Jama'ah (Arabic : الجماعة) was established by Mu'awiya to distinguish the followers of Ahl-ul-Bayt and prosecute them. Shi'a were not of the Jama'ah. The name comes from "the year of Jama'ah", "the year of the union" the year the Muslim civil war ended after a peace treaty between Hasan ibn Ali and Muawiya I. See Historic background of the Sunni-Shi'a split for detail on the split between Sunni Islam and Shi'a Islam.
Later on the word Ahl ul-Sunna wa-l-Jama'ah (Arabic: أهل السنة والجماعة), was used by the salafis in order to push for unity among the sunnis and to segregate against the non-sunnis of the muslims.
 
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Again ? Its the USA fault again ?
What is the difference between both sides ?

yep, america invades and their is secterian violence. american doesn't invade and there is over a thousand years of peace.

go figure, but don't worry when it comes to dividing the american peoploe in a civil war it will be like a walk in the park
 
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saladin1970 said:
well many people suggest that it was caused by a nuke in the indian ocean along the fault line, in a deliberate attempt by the US to kill hundreds and thousands of people along the costs.

I'd like to point out to people, this is seriously how alot of Muslims think, the many I have known and befriended, have had similiar beliefs about the United States, that are just as irrational and silly.

Islam lacks a significant amount of rational people, in all the different cultures it encompasess.
 
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saladin1970 said:
because the US planted bombs in iraqi mosques and blamed it on one side.
The US and zionists figured that if they cannot steal the oil from the iraqis then the second option is to make as much chaos before the bail out as they cannot afford a few billion every day to keep the murdering soldiers there

roflmao!
 
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saladin1970 said:
well many people suggest that it was caused by a nuke in the indian ocean along the fault line, in a deliberate attempt by the US to kill hundreds and thousands of people along the costs.


iahuiahuiahu!

This is even funnier than the last thing you said! Internet slang does not have anacronym that would do justice for how funny this is!
 
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saladin1970 said:
well many people suggest that it was caused by a nuke in the indian ocean along the fault line, in a deliberate attempt by the US to kill hundreds and thousands of people along the costs.
Show me the geiger counter readings at and around 3.4°N 95.7°E - that's the epicenter of the natural earthquake that caused the tsunami.
 
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