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Muslim Belief in Heaven
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there are many doors and paths, the best and most guranteed way in my opinion is dying by the enemies hands
cause being the enemy of the oppressors and helpers of the oppressed was the way of the Prophets (as) including Isa (as) (jesus)
cause being the enemy of the oppressors and helpers of the oppressed was the way of the Prophets (as) including Isa (as) (jesus)
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Equality in Jannah (Heaven)?
From the Maliki School of Islamic Law we have the following instruction:
21.6 If the dead person is a woman
If the dead person is a woman you say, "Oyour slave and the daughter of Your slaves." and you go on making the object of the du'a feminine rather than masculine. The only difference is that you do not say, "Give her a husband better than her husband. . ." because in the Garden (Heaven) she can be the wife of the man who was her husband in this world and the women of the Garden (Heaven) are attached only to their husbands and have no desire for anyone else. Allah, she is A man may have many wives in the Garden whereas women only have one husband.
Source -- The Risala of 'Abdullah ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani (922 AD 996 AD) A Treatise on Maliki Fiqh (one of the four Sunni schools of law) http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ABewley/Page40.html
Kind Regards,
Farside
From the Maliki School of Islamic Law we have the following instruction:
21.6 If the dead person is a woman
If the dead person is a woman you say, "Oyour slave and the daughter of Your slaves." and you go on making the object of the du'a feminine rather than masculine. The only difference is that you do not say, "Give her a husband better than her husband. . ." because in the Garden (Heaven) she can be the wife of the man who was her husband in this world and the women of the Garden (Heaven) are attached only to their husbands and have no desire for anyone else. Allah, she is A man may have many wives in the Garden whereas women only have one husband.
Source -- The Risala of 'Abdullah ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani (922 AD 996 AD) A Treatise on Maliki Fiqh (one of the four Sunni schools of law) http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ABewley/Page40.html
Kind Regards,
Farside
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I'm so lost....I realize that my understanding of Islam is limited but what was the OP again?
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the Holy Quran answers the question in many places such as in chapter 4 :[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]57. But those who believe (in the Oneness of Allâh - Islâmic Monotheism) and do deeds of righteousness, We shall admit them to Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise), abiding therein forever. Therein they shall have Azwâjun Mutahharatun[purified mates or wives (having no menses, stools, urine, etc.)] and We shall admit them to shades wide and ever deepening (Paradise). [/font]
And in the same chapter in verse # [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]124. And whoever does righteous good deeds, male or female, and is a true believer in the Oneness of Allâh (Muslim), such will enter Paradise and not the least injustice, even to the size of a Naqîra (speck on the back of a date­stone), will be done to them.
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And in the same chapter in verse # [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]124. And whoever does righteous good deeds, male or female, and is a true believer in the Oneness of Allâh (Muslim), such will enter Paradise and not the least injustice, even to the size of a Naqîra (speck on the back of a date­stone), will be done to them.
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CopticGirl
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the-fact-is said:
So to Muslims, is the purpose of Heaven to have "purified wives" and other earthly pleasures, or to spend eternity with God and worship Him?
God Bless.
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CotpicGirl said:
Muslims believe that the people in heaven will enjoy heavenly pleasures not earthly pleasures. Nothing can compare to the pleasures of heaven. With every footstep that a person takes in heaven they will experience more joy then they did during their entire stay on earth. Also, Muslims believe that people in heaven will be both worshipping and glorifying God as well as enjoying the fruits of their hard labor. There is a haddith in which the prophet Muhammad said that the people of heaven will praise and glorify God as easily as we breathe here on Earth.
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Bevlina
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Not wishing to be desrespectful, but may I ask how much time you'd have to worship God if you have all those "wives" in heaven?
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to my knowledge, forever.
that won't be the only pleasure in the heavan and btw to my understanding we won't have any lust like we have here.
one Q: what is OP? I see everyone typing it but I don't get it.
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rahul_sharma
Hindu dominated India - Largest Democracy on Earth
ok , so you mean for billions and billions and biliions and....billions of years people will live in this haevenBin Qasim said:
intresting...
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bigg35
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Note: Islamic texts quoted is the Hadith - the teachings of and about Muhammad and the things he said and did. Also, what is quoted is not totally comprehensive, or all that could be quoted, but is some foundational understanding of what is taught.
Who will go to heaven? Islam teaches,
Narrated Abue Huraira: Then he [Muhammad] ordered Bilal to announce amongst the people: "None will enter Paradise but a Muslim soul, and Allah may support this religion (i.e. Islam) even with an evil wicked man" (Qur'an 4:305; 54.2.464).
Which Muslims will make it, and how they get, to heaven? Islam teaches,
Narrated Sahl bin Sad: Narrated Allah's Apostle: "Whoever can guarantee (the chastity of) what is between his two jaw-bones and what is between his two legs (i.e. his tongue and his private parts), I guarantee Paradise for him" (8:320; 76.23.11.481)
-- though one wonders how Muhammad could resolve this with the blatantly provocative idea of paradise, with its harem of seventy perpetual virgins --
Narrated Aisha: I heard the Prophet and listened to him before his death while he was lying supported on his back and he was saying, "O Allah! Forgive me, and bestow Your Mercy on me, and let me meet the highest" (5:511; 59.81.715)
-- Note: Aisah was one of Muhammad's wives. He married her when she was seven (7) years of age, though she did not have to perform her "wifely" duties till she was nine (9). --
Narrated Abu Dhar: Allah's Apostle said: "The Angel Gabriel came and said to me, 'Whoever amongst your followers dies, worshipping none along with Allah, will enter Paradise.' I said, 'Even if he did such-and-such thing (i.e. even if he stole or committed illegal sexual intercourse)'. He said, 'Yes.'" (3:337; 41.3.573)
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever says, 'Subhan Allah wa bihambdihi' (I deem Allah free of any resemblance to anything what-so-ever in any respect, and I celebrate His Praises) one hundred times a day, will be forgiven all his sins even if they were as much as the foam of the Sea" (8:277; 75.67.414)
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said: "All my followers will enter Paradise except those who refuse." They said, "O Allah's Apostle! Who will refuse?" He said, "Whoever obeys me will enter Paradise, and whoever disobeys me is the one who refuses (to enter it)" (9:284; 92.2.384)
Narrated Abu Al-Aswad: The Apostle said, "Allah will admit into Paradise any Muslim whose good character is attested by four persons." We asked the Prophet, "If there were three witnesses only?" He said, "Even three." We asked, "If there were two only?" He said, "Even two." But we did not ask him about one witness (3:492; 48.6.811)
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said: "The deed of any one of you will not save you (from the (Hell) Fire)." They said, "Even you (will not be saved by your deeds). O Allah's Apostle?" He said, "No, even I (will not be saved) unless and until Allah bestows His mercy on me. Therefore do good deed properly, sincerely and moderately, and worship Allah in the forenoon and in the afternoon and during a part of the night, and always adopt a middle, moderate, regular course whereby you will reach your target (Paradise)" (8:313; 76.18.470)
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "To the person who carries out Jihad for His Cause and nothing compelled him to go out but the Jihad in His Cause, and belief in His Words, Allah guarantees taht He will either admit him into Paradise or return him with the reward or the booty he has earned to his residence from where he went out" (9:413; 93.28.549)
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "None of you should point towards his Muslim brother with a weapon, for he does not know, Satan may tempt him to hit him and thus he would fall into a pit of first (Hell)" (9:153; 88.10.204)
Narrated Al-Hasan: Allah's Apostle said, "If two Muslims take out their swords to fight each other, then both of them are from the peole of the (Hell) Fire" (9:153; 88.10.204)
-- What does this say about the Iran/Iraq war, and the rise of every Islamic dictatorship which overtakes its predessor? --
Narrated Usama: The Prophet said, "I stood at the gate of the Fire and found the majority of the people entering it were women" (8:363; 76.51.555)
SUMMARY
Both the Qur'an and the Hadith which include traditions and expounded teachings show that essentially you can not be guaranteed getting into heaven. Ideas and ideology (theology) include your good deeds outwaying your bad; being a martyr; a woman dying in child birth etc. Nevertheless, ultimately going to Paradise (heaven) is at the DISCRETION of Allah. He has ultimate control over whether He descides whether of not to let you in. There ultimately is no way to know; and no "yard-stick" in which to measure it.
Who will go to heaven? Islam teaches,
Narrated Abue Huraira: Then he [Muhammad] ordered Bilal to announce amongst the people: "None will enter Paradise but a Muslim soul, and Allah may support this religion (i.e. Islam) even with an evil wicked man" (Qur'an 4:305; 54.2.464).
Which Muslims will make it, and how they get, to heaven? Islam teaches,
Narrated Sahl bin Sad: Narrated Allah's Apostle: "Whoever can guarantee (the chastity of) what is between his two jaw-bones and what is between his two legs (i.e. his tongue and his private parts), I guarantee Paradise for him" (8:320; 76.23.11.481)
-- though one wonders how Muhammad could resolve this with the blatantly provocative idea of paradise, with its harem of seventy perpetual virgins --
Narrated Aisha: I heard the Prophet and listened to him before his death while he was lying supported on his back and he was saying, "O Allah! Forgive me, and bestow Your Mercy on me, and let me meet the highest" (5:511; 59.81.715)
-- Note: Aisah was one of Muhammad's wives. He married her when she was seven (7) years of age, though she did not have to perform her "wifely" duties till she was nine (9). --
Narrated Abu Dhar: Allah's Apostle said: "The Angel Gabriel came and said to me, 'Whoever amongst your followers dies, worshipping none along with Allah, will enter Paradise.' I said, 'Even if he did such-and-such thing (i.e. even if he stole or committed illegal sexual intercourse)'. He said, 'Yes.'" (3:337; 41.3.573)
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever says, 'Subhan Allah wa bihambdihi' (I deem Allah free of any resemblance to anything what-so-ever in any respect, and I celebrate His Praises) one hundred times a day, will be forgiven all his sins even if they were as much as the foam of the Sea" (8:277; 75.67.414)
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said: "All my followers will enter Paradise except those who refuse." They said, "O Allah's Apostle! Who will refuse?" He said, "Whoever obeys me will enter Paradise, and whoever disobeys me is the one who refuses (to enter it)" (9:284; 92.2.384)
Narrated Abu Al-Aswad: The Apostle said, "Allah will admit into Paradise any Muslim whose good character is attested by four persons." We asked the Prophet, "If there were three witnesses only?" He said, "Even three." We asked, "If there were two only?" He said, "Even two." But we did not ask him about one witness (3:492; 48.6.811)
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said: "The deed of any one of you will not save you (from the (Hell) Fire)." They said, "Even you (will not be saved by your deeds). O Allah's Apostle?" He said, "No, even I (will not be saved) unless and until Allah bestows His mercy on me. Therefore do good deed properly, sincerely and moderately, and worship Allah in the forenoon and in the afternoon and during a part of the night, and always adopt a middle, moderate, regular course whereby you will reach your target (Paradise)" (8:313; 76.18.470)
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "To the person who carries out Jihad for His Cause and nothing compelled him to go out but the Jihad in His Cause, and belief in His Words, Allah guarantees taht He will either admit him into Paradise or return him with the reward or the booty he has earned to his residence from where he went out" (9:413; 93.28.549)
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "None of you should point towards his Muslim brother with a weapon, for he does not know, Satan may tempt him to hit him and thus he would fall into a pit of first (Hell)" (9:153; 88.10.204)
Narrated Al-Hasan: Allah's Apostle said, "If two Muslims take out their swords to fight each other, then both of them are from the peole of the (Hell) Fire" (9:153; 88.10.204)
-- What does this say about the Iran/Iraq war, and the rise of every Islamic dictatorship which overtakes its predessor? --
Narrated Usama: The Prophet said, "I stood at the gate of the Fire and found the majority of the people entering it were women" (8:363; 76.51.555)
SUMMARY
Both the Qur'an and the Hadith which include traditions and expounded teachings show that essentially you can not be guaranteed getting into heaven. Ideas and ideology (theology) include your good deeds outwaying your bad; being a martyr; a woman dying in child birth etc. Nevertheless, ultimately going to Paradise (heaven) is at the DISCRETION of Allah. He has ultimate control over whether He descides whether of not to let you in. There ultimately is no way to know; and no "yard-stick" in which to measure it.
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This was the Quranic verse that was posted by the-fact-is in which I have to thank him for using the original words in the Arabic "Azwâjun Mutahharatun".
However the responses that I see still are focussed in a prejudicial manner of our faith. The Quran does not teach that men will have mulitple spouses and women only one. There is no where in the Quran that supports such a thing.
In the above quoted Quranic verse the subject is "those who believe and do righteous good deeds" which is refering to both muslim men and women. "Them" & "They" is speaking about "those who believe and do righteous good deeds" which are muslim men and women.
One of their rewards will be "Azwâjun Mutahharatun" which literally means "Pure Spouses". The Arabic word "azwaj" is plural meaning "spouses" meaning "wives" or "husbands".
The meaning depends on the gender of the reader. If a female Arabicist is reading this it would mean to her "Pure Husbands" for a male Arabicist it would mean "Pure Wives".
The common rendering of course are by male translators who rendered the Arabic into English according to gender interpretation.
However, Alllaah states in the Qur'an that we will be resurrected in forms that we knew not.
In Islam when we are resurrected we will have forms that we knew not, so the concept of gender in paradise contradicts Quran, mereless to say, it will not be the gender we preceived in this life that will be in the herafter.
Muslims should guard themselves from the People of the Book's influential concept of Paradise whose inhabitants will be distinguished by gender ie male and female whereas in orthadox teaching of Islam the inhabitants of paradise will be distinguished based on their faith and deeds.
This is the major problem with Christians trying to understand Islam. Whenever they read something from the Quran they percieve it based on a Biblical or cultural prestige which is remote from its true understanding.[/font]
the-fact-is said:
This was the Quranic verse that was posted by the-fact-is in which I have to thank him for using the original words in the Arabic "Azwâjun Mutahharatun".
However the responses that I see still are focussed in a prejudicial manner of our faith. The Quran does not teach that men will have mulitple spouses and women only one. There is no where in the Quran that supports such a thing.
In the above quoted Quranic verse the subject is "those who believe and do righteous good deeds" which is refering to both muslim men and women. "Them" & "They" is speaking about "those who believe and do righteous good deeds" which are muslim men and women.
One of their rewards will be "Azwâjun Mutahharatun" which literally means "Pure Spouses". The Arabic word "azwaj" is plural meaning "spouses" meaning "wives" or "husbands".
The meaning depends on the gender of the reader. If a female Arabicist is reading this it would mean to her "Pure Husbands" for a male Arabicist it would mean "Pure Wives".
The common rendering of course are by male translators who rendered the Arabic into English according to gender interpretation.
However, Alllaah states in the Qur'an that we will be resurrected in forms that we knew not.
In Islam when we are resurrected we will have forms that we knew not, so the concept of gender in paradise contradicts Quran, mereless to say, it will not be the gender we preceived in this life that will be in the herafter.
Muslims should guard themselves from the People of the Book's influential concept of Paradise whose inhabitants will be distinguished by gender ie male and female whereas in orthadox teaching of Islam the inhabitants of paradise will be distinguished based on their faith and deeds.
This is the major problem with Christians trying to understand Islam. Whenever they read something from the Quran they percieve it based on a Biblical or cultural prestige which is remote from its true understanding.[/font]
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If a woman marries more than one husband, which one will she be with in Paradise?
Due to death or divorce, a Muslim woman may have more than one husband during her life.
From Islam-qa.com we find the most acceptable answer:
Imaam Abul-Shaykh al-Asbahaani said: Ahmad ibn Ishaaq al-Jawhari told us, he said, Ismaaeel ibn Zaraarah told us, he said, Abul-Maleeh al-Raqqi told us from Maymoon ibn Mahraan from Umm al-Darda from Abul-Darda that the Prophet said that a woman will be with the last of her husbands. (Tabaqaat al-Muhaaditheen bi Asbahaan, 4/36)
Source --http://www.islam-qa.com/QA/1%7CBasic_Tenets_of_Faith(Aqeedah)/Al-Jannah_Wal-Naar(Paradise_and_Hell)/If_a_woman_marries_more_than_one_husband,_which_one_will_she_be_with_in_Paradise.13121999.8068.shtml
Farsides Commentary:
A) The evil institution of polygamy is a corner stone of Jannah.
B) If a woman has three husbands during hear life, what happens if the third husband goes to hell? Will she be stuck with her second husband for all eternity, or will she have the opportunity of picking her first husband? 
Enquiring minds need to know.
Kind Regards,
Farside
Due to death or divorce,
a Muslim woman may have more than one husband during her life.From Islam-qa.com we find the most acceptable answer:
Imaam Abul-Shaykh al-Asbahaani said: Ahmad ibn Ishaaq al-Jawhari told us, he said, Ismaaeel ibn Zaraarah told us, he said, Abul-Maleeh al-Raqqi told us from Maymoon ibn Mahraan from Umm al-Darda from Abul-Darda that the Prophet said that a woman will be with the last of her husbands. (Tabaqaat al-Muhaaditheen bi Asbahaan, 4/36)
Source --http://www.islam-qa.com/QA/1%7CBasic_Tenets_of_Faith(Aqeedah)/Al-Jannah_Wal-Naar(Paradise_and_Hell)/If_a_woman_marries_more_than_one_husband,_which_one_will_she_be_with_in_Paradise.13121999.8068.shtml
Farsides Commentary:
A) The evil institution of polygamy is a corner stone of Jannah.
B) If a woman has three husbands during hear life, what happens if the third husband goes to hell?
Will she be stuck with her second husband for all eternity, or will she have the opportunity of picking her first husband? Enquiring minds need to know.
Kind Regards,
Farside
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farside said:If a woman marries more than one husband, which one will she be with in Paradise?
Due to death or divorce,
From Islam-qa.com we find the most acceptable answer:
Imaam Abul-Shaykh al-Asbahaani said: Ahmad ibn Ishaaq al-Jawhari told us, he said, Ismaaeel ibn Zaraarah told us, he said, Abul-Maleeh al-Raqqi told us from Maymoon ibn Mahraan from Umm al-Darda from Abul-Darda that the Prophet said that a woman will be with the last of her husbands. (Tabaqaat al-Muhaaditheen bi Asbahaan, 4/36)
Source --http://www.islam-qa.com/QA/1%7CBasic_Tenets_of_Faith(Aqeedah)/Al-Jannah_Wal-Naar(Paradise_and_Hell)/If_a_woman_marries_more_than_one_husband,_which_one_will_she_be_with_in_Paradise.13121999.8068.shtml
Farsides Commentary:
A) The evil institution of polygamy is a corner stone of Jannah.
B) If a woman has three husbands during hear life, what happens if the third husband goes to hell? Will she be stuck with her second husband for all eternity, or will she have the opportunity of picking her first husband?
Enquiring minds need to know.
What am I going to do with your question
Can there be any other opinion added beside what Prophet Muhammad (SAW) have said?
1. obviously the women wouldn't want to live with her last husband in Hell if he is put in Hell for his deed.
2. Why would the women not like to live with the man who was her husband on earth and entered Heaven due to his deeds?
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the number one reward in paradise is closness to God and the completion of our light, that is finally reaching God's light, the inner blessings of peace and the companionship with Angels, Prophets, and God's friend (upon them all be peace) is to me 2nd best, the wives and mansions and fruits too me come after the pleasure, just as being far away from God forever to me is worse than the buring flames of hell and in reality is the hell in this world, spiritual blindess from God's signs and light
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Amandine
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Unfortunately this misconception is so prevalent in Western minds. The last retort from my ex-friend when he couldn't convert me back to Christianity was "well, have fun watching your Muslim husband getting it on heaven with his many wives". I was so TICKED. How ignorant do you have to be to think that intelligent women would join a religion if there was that belief? I didn't even bother to explain to him his error...at that point I knew his ears were closed.
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well, I don't think u will be able to count the life u will live in heavan. btw y r u yawning?ok , so you mean for billions and billions and biliions and....billions of years people will live in this haeven
intresting...
some questions to bigg35:
1. wat r all those numbers after mentioning of Ayah and hadith?
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wat the heck that means??
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yes it is true!! u got any questions??
Can u pls tell me how it shows that there is no measure in Quran and ahadiths. I see it mentioned in every ayah and hadith u have provided.
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