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wing2000

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Nope - not at all - just seeing if you live by the standards you demand others to.

I was asking for the source of your information. Another participant posted an article based on the White House take. Since neither the White House or the Colombian government has provided the text of their agreement to resume deportee flights, we're left with an actual video of a flight arriving in Colombia.

If you got something else to further our understanding, have at it.
 
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I was asking for the source of your information. Another participant posted an article based on the White House take. Since neither the White House or the Colombian government has provided the text of their agreement to resume deportee flights, we're left with an actual video of a flight arriving in Colombia.

If you got something else to further our understanding, have at it.
So you are basing your understanding of who these people are and what they were deported for on a video?
 
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Riley i hope after all our conversations you would know the answer by now.
True. I had an obvious brain fog. Pardon me.
 
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I wonder if it crossed his mind that when he doesn't accept these folks, they're going to stay in handcuffs longer. Why didn't he want to un-un-dignify them?
People were handcuffed whilst aboard the flights?
What?
 
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People were handcuffed whilst aboard the flights?
What?
I don't know, but Petro was concerned about them being handcuffed somewhere. And if he doesn't accept them as he should he's only prolonging the indignity that he claims to be so worried about.
 
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I don't know, but Petro was concerned about them being handcuffed somewhere. And if he doesn't accept them as he should he's only prolonging the indignity that he claims to be so worried about.
I do not have the expertise required to castigate another world leader for failing to take care of his own citizens “correctly”, by their refusal to allow those citizens to be treated badly by a nation expunging them from itself.

But how many more flights will have deportees being handcuffed when exiting the aircraft?
My guess is “zero”.
 
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I do not have the expertise required to castigate another world leader for failing to take care of his own citizens “correctly”, by their refusal to allow those citizens to be treated badly by a nation expunging them from itself.

But how many more flights will have deportees being handcuffed when exiting the aircraft?
My guess is “zero”.
Imagine your loved ones are kidnapped, and handcuffed. The kidnappers say they'll return them to you and uncuff them. You say "I will not accept my family back because they are now handcuffed". :rolleyes: Great logic, huh.

Petro tried to stand up to Trump by crying crocodile tears and doing the cry-bully thing. He "fooled around and found out". Now hopefully things will go swimmingly and lawfully.
 
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Imagine your loved ones are kidnapped, and handcuffed. The kidnappers say they'll return them to you and uncuff them. You say "I will not accept my family back because they are now handcuffed". :rolleyes: Great logic, huh.
Portraying the USA as kidnappers is a bold move in your analogy.

Petro tried to stand up to Trump by crying crocodile tears and doing the cry-bully thing. He "fooled around and found out". Now hopefully things will go swimmingly and lawfully.
The Colombians had offered to use their own aircraft to go and get their own citizens back to Colombia, but President Trump wanted to use military aircraft for the “show” of the event.
Petro wasn’t having it.
The egg is on Donald’s face, expensive as they are.
 
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None of the Columbian deportees had criminal records according to the Colombian Foreign minister:


Two Colombian air force planes landed Tuesday in Bogota with more than 200 of the migrants, many of them women and children.

Colombian Foreign Minister Luis Gilberto Murillo said none of the 200 Colombians who were returned on Tuesday had criminal records in the U.S. or Colombia.

“Migrants are not criminals,” Petro wrote. “They are human beings who want to work and get ahead in life.”

One of the migrants, José Montaña of Medellín, said they were put in chains on the earlier U.S. flights. “We were shackled from our feet, our ankles to our hips, like criminals,” Montaña said. “There were women whose kids had to see their moms shackled like they were drug traffickers.”


Meanwhile, Trump continues to portray them as violent offenders:

“We were being scolded because we had them in shackles in an airplane and he said ‘this is no way to treat people,’” he said at a policy conference for House Republicans held at his Doral golf club in Florida. “You’ve got to understand, these are murderers, drug lords, gang members, just the toughest people you’ve ever met or seen.”
 
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Are we to believe the leader of a failed narco state or the two time elected President of the United States?

Credibility Ratings:
Bogota Luis > President Trump > Baghdad Bob
 
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Portraying the USA as kidnappers is a bold move in your analogy.
Thank you.
The Colombians had offered to use their own aircraft to go and get their own citizens back to Colombia, but President Trump wanted to use military aircraft for the “show” of the event.
Petro wasn’t having it.
The egg is on Donald’s face, expensive as they are.
I don't know where you get your news. What I've read is that he was concerned about handcuffs and dignity.
 
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ICE is going after the worst first. From what I understand there were a lot of gang members from a particularly violent gang
If that was Trump's plan, then he wouldn't give ICE promissoin to go in school's.
 
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