Murtha's Second Act

[Yusuf Evans]

Murtha speaks for the soldiers. If you respect them, respect his words.

He also said the Haditha massacre investigation was conclude when it wasn't. He played the guilty till innocent card already,and that tells me exactly who he speaks for and it ain't us Marines either.

 

[MachZer0]

He also said the Haditha massacre investigation was conclude when it wasn't. He played the guilty till innocent card already,and that tells me exactly who he speaks for and it ain't us Marines either.

In 2004, Murtha also claimed that he knew from conversations with Pentagon officials that after the 2004 elections, Bush had secret plans to call up massive numbers Of the Individual Ready reserve. It never happened. Seems like Murtha's Pentagon sources are not what we would refer to as reliable

 

[JustOneWay]

In 2004, Murtha also claimed that he knew from conversations with Pentagon officials that after the 2004 elections, Bush had secret plans to call up massive numbers Of the Individual Ready reserve. It never happened. Seems like Murtha's Pentagon sources are not what we would refer to as reliable

Have a link for the Murtha statement about the Individual Ready reserve?

 

[MachZer0]

Have a link for the Murtha statement about the Individual Ready reserve?

Sure

 

[JustOneWay]

Sure

Thanks for the link.

Kerry spokesman David Wade said the four-term Massachusetts senator got his information on Bush's mobilization plans from Representative John Murtha of Pennsylvania

On 30 June 2004 the Army announced plans to order 5,600 Soldier in the Individual Ready Reserve to active duty for possible deployment with the next Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom rotations. Those Soldiers called up will have 30 days from the date the orders were issued to take care of personal business before having to report to a mobilization site, officials said. The orders call for 18 months of active duty, but that could be extended for a total of 24 months if needed, they said. The IRR call-up does not impact retired Soldiers, contrary to several civilian media reports.
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In late June, the Army announced it would call up more than 5,600 members of the Individual Ready Reserve, which is made up of soldiers who were honorably discharged after completing their active-duty Army tours, usually a stint of four years or more. But soldiers make a minimum eight-year commitment when they volunteer for the Army, and the Army has the right to call them back until that time is up. The last time the Army called up significant numbers from the IRR was during the Persian Gulf War in 1991.
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Does this mean that the Army also got their intel from Murtha?

 

[Voegelin]

I understand that Murtha's military record is unclear since he, just like Kerry, has refused to sign to release his records.

I was unaware of that. His current actions are those of a ticket puncher but I've seen nothing to indicate he was such when he served. Perhaps he was a Lt. John Kerry sort from the git-go. That he hasn't signed a release is troubling. We'll find out eventually. Ann Coulter comments about what enlisted men think of Murtha/Kerry type rhetoric was dead on correct. I see Murtha's defenders have, after a brief attack, avoided what Ann said and she had to revisit it in her column this week.

It is a subject which needs to be aired.

 

[MachZer0]

Thanks for the link.






Does this mean that the Army also got their intel from Murtha?

No, but if you'll check your dates you'll see that Murtha's claimsed the call ups would be in November involving LARGE numbers. Different situations

 

[JustOneWay]

No, but if you'll check your dates you'll see that Murtha's claimsed the call ups would be in November involving LARGE numbers. Different situations

5600 isn't a large number?

Your attack on Murtha is specific, and your link was vague. Got a better article?

 

[JustOneWay]

No, but if you'll check your dates you'll see that Murtha's claimsed the call ups would be in November involving LARGE numbers. Different situations

Another source included this information to their story:

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Murtha released a statement saying he had ''learned through conversations with officials at the Pentagon" that the White House would ''call up large numbers" of reservists if the Bush-Cheney ticket is reelected.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan yesterday blasted the suggestion of a new reservist call-up as ''just another baseless attack."
The Bush campaign, separately, released a statement by Senator Pete V. Domenici of New Mexico, a member of the defense appropriations panel, who charged that Senate leaders on defense matters have not been told of such a plan and that ''this kind of speculation" was harmful to reservists and their families.
''Desperate candidates are generally not the most accurate sources of information on these issues," Domenici said.
While the Defense Department has announced a new rotation of reservists and National Guard members to Iraq this winter, military commanders have told Murtha that too few reservists have been called up to prepare for the mission and up to 2,500 more will be needed, according to aides to Murtha, the ranking Democrat on the House panel that writes the Pentagon's budget.

A senior aide to Murtha, who spoke on condition of anonymity yesterday, cautioned that a new call-up was not a certainty, saying enough reservists may still be mobilized by November to avoid one.

So the LARGE numbers you are talking about is 2500?

 

[MachZer0]

Another source included this information to their story:

So the LARGE numbers you are talking about is 2500?

So when were the Individual Ready Reserves called up?

 

[Voegelin]

Quiz time! Who said this?

I fear . . . the administration is considering what is tantamount to a cut-and-run strategy. Their sudden embrace of accelerated Iraqification and American troop withdrawal dates, without adequate stability, is an invitation to failure. The hard work of rebuilding Iraq must not be dictated by the schedule of the next American election.

Answer here

 

[JustOneWay]

In 2004, Murtha also claimed that he knew from conversations with Pentagon officials that after the 2004 elections, Bush had secret plans to call up massive numbers Of the Individual Ready reserve. It never happened. Seems like Murtha's Pentagon sources are not what we would refer to as reliable

Murtha's statement: the Bush Administration plans to call up large numbers of the military guard and reserves, to include plans that they previously put off to call up the Individual Ready Reserve.


When did Murtha say that massive numbers of the Individual Ready Reserve would be called up?





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