Murdering Abortion Doctors

[markie]

Let me preface this by saying I am a Catholic Pacifist and was discharged from the Army as a Conscientious Objector last December. In no way do I advocate killing anyone, and certainly not abortion doctors.

But my question is this:

If abortion is the taking of an innocent human life,
if abortion takes over 500,000 american lives a year,
and if abortion is murder and genocide...

Then why is it wrong to kill abortion doctors to prevent them from slaughtering thousands of innocent babies?

Most pro-life supporters do not advocate killing abortion doctors, and typically they give one of two reasons:

1) Vigilantism is wrong. It is up to the state to punish people, not individuals.

2) Murdering abortion doctors would not stop abortions. It would only incite people against the pro-life movement.

My responses to those two reasons:

1) Vigilantism may be the only response left for citizens who belong to an unjust nation. In WWII, when the Nazi's were slaughtering jews, was it proper for Germans to say, "Well, we will work to get laws passed to protect the jews, but we simply won't do anything on our own. That would be vigilantism." Moreover, the Supreme Court has made it clear that no law could ever be passed to stop abortion. There is no hope that the State will stop abortion, unless an amendment is passed.

2) Murdering abortion doctors might very well cause a backlash against the pro-life movement, but when did we sacrifice our priciples because we were afraid of the consequences? Is defending human life with violence only appropriate when you have a chance of winning? Even if that is true, abortion could be stopped overnight through the actions of 100 committed individuals. Within one week of abortion bombings and murders around the country, no doctor would step inside a clinic. It would be terrorism, yes, but it would work. Is not the lives of millions of babies worth being painted as evil? Isn't good always painted as evil?

The only reason a pro-life christian should be against killing abortions doctors is because he is against killing in all forms - because he is a pacifist like me.

Vigilantism is wrong, if we had a bunch of vigilante's we would have chaos. I don't agree with abortion either, but we have law's and they should be obeyed if we don't think the law is just we should try to change them. If we go around killing the abortion doctors are we any better then they are? 2) Murdering abortion doctors would not stop abortions. No, it won't it might slow it down a little but if a woman wants to have an abortion she will probably find a way to have one. Paul said in Acts 25:11 "If then I am a wrongdoer, and have committed anything worthy of death, I do not refuse to die; but if none of those things is true of which these men accuse me, no one can hand me over to them. I appeal to Caesar." He doesn't advocate vigilantism, he says if he deserves to die he should die but if not he will appeal to Caesar, which indicates he believes in obeying the law.












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[eclipsoul]

I don't believe anyone here really understands the profound evil of Abortion.

Otherwise, I wouldn't have people giving all sorts of reasons why vigilantism is more evil than genocide, why the state's laws trumps God's commandments, and why innocent human life can be traded for obedience to a piece of paper called our constitution.

Your idol is the state.

ALL VIOLENCE IN ALL SITUATIONS IS WRONG.

If this wasn't true, we would be required to stop abortion using violence. It make me not a little sick to see people nonchalantly trade a million babies a year, for the sake of respecting their god the state.

 

[Kristi1]

Murdering Abortion Doctors

I don't believe anyone here really understands the profound evil of Abortion.

Otherwise, I wouldn't have people giving all sorts of reasons why vigilantism is more evil than genocide, why the state's laws trumps God's commandments, and why innocent human life can be traded for obedience to a piece of paper called our constitution.

Your idol is the state.

Abortion is Murder, Killing a Abortion Doctor is Murder.

God Says this and I believe it!!!

[bible]Exodus 20:13[/bible]

 

[wonderboy92577]

I really want to know why everyone is so quick to tell others what is right and what is wrong. So what is Jane Doe gets an abortion? Does that in any way impact MY salvation? NO. Does it impact MY walk with God -- it shouldn't. But it could: having not walked a mile in Jane Doe's shoes, I could be so incensed with self-righteous indignation at her abortion and be blinded by anger and judgement God reserves for himself. (He alone is the Judge of creation, not you or I -- and any expression of my opinion on Jane's behavior equates to my elevating myself as a peer to the Throne of Judgement.)

I think we should all mind our business. (And I do mean our *own* business.) I don't think abortion is right. I certainly don't think *men* should be telling women what they can or cannot do with their bodies.

I also don't think I want the government to get involved in telling us what is or isn't right. Everytime *that* happens, we end up worse-off than whence we started.

To "spell it out" for the less fleet-minded, if you think abortion is wrong, don't do it. But for heaven's sake, don't burden your conscience with the actions of people you might not even know well. There are certainly more pressing matters in day-to-day life.

Having said that, I'm hoping there are no large stones laying around.