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Have you heard the expression, "It's all about money!" The Mueller probe is no different. Sure, initially, even currently, it is about power politics, but the underlying benefit for all those involved is dollars, and lots of them. Mueller hired a host of Democratic lawyers, from 10 to 20 of them at any given time. Were they committed to bringing down the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump? Yes, of course they were, but after a two year investigation it looks by all indications they are coming up empty.

Was the investigation unsuccessful then? No, because they kept the President busy defending himself and expending energy he could have directed elsewhere. When the Democrats lead the House of Representatives it will be the same story; anything to keep him from accomplishing his agenda. That is all politics all the time,but where does the money come in?

Millions upon millions of dollars were spent on the investigation. Some of it rightly spent on overhead and normal investigative expenses, but how much was spent on those 20 Democratic lawyers, and how much money went to Mueller himself? My guess is, the general public will never know and it would take an act of Congress to find out.

Is anyone questioning WHY the Mueller probe has taken this long? Let me submit, they are draining the American people for as much as they can before they are forced to stop. I would like a probe into the bank accounts of all those lawyers, before and after the probe. There is a reason why the District of Columbia is one of the richest communities on earth, and it's just not right.



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The Mueller investigation has cost $25 million, not $30 million as Trump fumed one day or $40 million as he falsely asserted in another rage 48 hours later, but has lead to monetary gains of $48 million. As part of his plea deal with the special counsel, Paul Manafort agreed to forfeit real estate and cash estimated to be worth between $42 million and $46 million. Michael Cohen also had to pay fees.

To date, the investigation has yielded charges against 36 people or entities. Seven people have pleaded guilty to various charges, including Trump's first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, former deputy campaign chairman Rick Gates and former campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos.

Taxpayers have spent considerably more money funding Mr. Trump's excursions to play golf than they have on the Mueller investigation. It's also been significantly less expensive and more fruitful than other special investigations.
 
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(snip) Mueller hired a host of Democratic lawyers, from 10 to 20 of them at any given time. (snip)
I'd be interested in seeing some proof for this particular claim. :wave:
tulc(always likes to see proof for claims) :)
 
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Have you heard the expression, "It's all about money!" The Mueller probe is no different. Sure, initially, even currently, it is about power politics, but the underlying benefit for all those involved is dollars, and lots of them. Mueller hired a host of Democratic lawyers, from 10 to 20 of them at any given time. Were they committed to bringing down the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump? Yes, of course they were, but after a two year investigation it looks by all indications they are coming up empty.

Was the investigation unsuccessful then? No, because they kept the President busy defending himself and expending energy he could have directed elsewhere. When the Democrats lead the House of Representatives it will be the same story; anything to keep him from accomplishing his agenda. That is all politics all the time,but where does the money come in?

Millions upon millions of dollars were spent on the investigation. Some of it rightly spent on overhead and normal investigative expenses, but how much was spent on those 20 Democratic lawyers, and how much money went to Mueller himself? My guess is, the general public will never know and it would take an act of Congress to find out.

Is anyone questioning WHY the Mueller probe has taken this long? Let me submit, they are draining the American people for as much as they can before they are forced to stop. I would like a probe into the bank accounts of all those lawyers, before and after the probe. There is a reason why the District of Columbia is one of the richest communities on earth, and it's just not right.



If you like wisdom, particularly Biblical wisdom, check out my website, www.sataniscoming.com, It details what is about to happen to this generation.
Maybe Mueller is just trying to enforce the law and he is uncovering some pretty profound felonies. Maybe he has something on the President, maybe he will completely exonerate him, that remains to be seen. If he is being greedy it's probably because he is in the business of getting the goods on bad guys, and business is good. He doesn't seem to be running out of people to prosecute, that's for sure. Until he does, expect the investigation to continue. But if Trump did direct Cohen to make those payments illegally, doesn't that make your as guilty as the one who committed the actual deed?
 
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Have you heard the expression, "It's all about money!" The Mueller probe is no different. Sure, initially, even currently, it is about power politics, but the underlying benefit for all those involved is dollars, and lots of them.

For example, Trump leveraged his inauguration to siphon off millions to his organization. There's now a criminal investigation focusing on Trump hotels overcharging and pocketing the difference.

Mueller hired a host of Democratic lawyers, from 10 to 20 of them at any given time.

Mueller is a republican. Show us a checkable source for him hiring only democrat lawyers.

Were they committed to bringing down the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump?

Seems unlikely. After all, it's been a very productive investigation, with a large number of indictments, convictions, and guilty pleas. Not one on Trump so far. They were following the crooks.

Yes, of course they were, but after a two year investigation it looks by all indications they are coming up empty.

If you think so, you've missed over a dozen indictments. Some of the perps are now cooperating with the FBI.

Was the investigation unsuccessful then?

Catching and convicting crooks is normally considered a success, yes.

they kept the President busy defending himself and expending energy he could have directed elsewhere.

Trump seems to have an astoundingly bad judgement when it comes to hires. Unless he was actively looking for crooks to employ. That's his fault. If he was a better leader, he wouldn't be dealing with the consquences of his bad judgement.

When the Democrats lead the House of Representatives it will be the same story; anything to keep him from accomplishing his agenda.

His agenda is to curry favor with dictators, offend our allies, end Obamacare, separate children from their parents, and build an expensive and useless vanity wall. No wonder he couldn't even get a republican congress to approve it.

Millions upon millions of dollars were spent on the investigation. Some of it rightly spent on overhead and normal investigative expenses, but how much was spent on those 20 Democratic lawyers,

You were going to show us that they are democrats. And of course, they caught a pretty good number of crooks, and more likely to come. Compare with the many millions spent to "investigate" Hillary Clinton, which resulted in no indictments at all.

and how much money went to Mueller himself?

He doesn't get a bonus for catching crooks. He'd have gotten the same money if he hadn't gotten a single indictment.

Is anyone questioning WHY the Mueller probe has taken this long?

No one with any sense. Watergate took several years. Iran-Contra took years. Whitewater took years. Some, like the attempt to find something on Hillary Clinton, came up empty. Others, like Watergate, Iran-contra, and Russiagate, produced lots of indictments and convictions. But these things take time. And Mueller is very thorough.
 
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I'm cracking up on the implication that Mueller would leave the second most prestigious law firm in the country to go back into government service because he's greedy. Like he probably took a huge salary cut to take this position.
 
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Have you heard the expression, "It's all about money!" The Mueller probe is no different. Sure, initially, even currently, it is about power politics, but the underlying benefit for all those involved is dollars, and lots of them. Mueller hired a host of Democratic lawyers, from 10 to 20 of them at any given time. Were they committed to bringing down the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump? Yes, of course they were, but after a two year investigation it looks by all indications they are coming up empty.

Was the investigation unsuccessful then? No, because they kept the President busy defending himself and expending energy he could have directed elsewhere. When the Democrats lead the House of Representatives it will be the same story; anything to keep him from accomplishing his agenda. That is all politics all the time,but where does the money come in?

Millions upon millions of dollars were spent on the investigation. Some of it rightly spent on overhead and normal investigative expenses, but how much was spent on those 20 Democratic lawyers, and how much money went to Mueller himself? My guess is, the general public will never know and it would take an act of Congress to find out.

Is anyone questioning WHY the Mueller probe has taken this long? Let me submit, they are draining the American people for as much as they can before they are forced to stop. I would like a probe into the bank accounts of all those lawyers, before and after the probe. There is a reason why the District of Columbia is one of the richest communities on earth, and it's just not right.



If you like wisdom, particularly Biblical wisdom, check out my website, www.sataniscoming.com, It details what is about to happen to this generation.
I’ve always wondered why people project suspicions about things they could easily find the truth on with a simple google search.

Mueller's Team Gave Up Millions In Pay to Join the Russia Probe. Here's How Much They Make

There ya go. Mueller took a big pay cut to serve his country as special council. And if you’d been keeping up with the investigation you would know they have brought in more $$ than they have spent.
 
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I’ve always wondered why people project suspicions about things they could easily find the truth on with a simple google search.

Mueller's Team Gave Up Millions In Pay to Join the Russia Probe. Here's How Much They Make

There ya go. Mueller took a big pay cut to serve his country as special council. And if you’d been keeping up with the investigation you would know they have brought in more $$ than they have spent.
So Mueller literally made more then his entire team does now when he was in private practice. And he was Director of the FBI for 12 years. Yeah, there is no personal benefit really in him doing this.
 
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So Mueller literally made more then his entire team does now when he was in private practice. And he was Director of the FBI for 12 years. Yeah, there is no personal benefit really in him doing this.
Yeah it’s beyond me why people say they “wonder” about something but don’t bother to do a 10 second google search...
 
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Hank,
I really appreciate your open mind. Nor would I discourage your healthy skepticism. There is a covert war going on in our country right now that spills over into what is erroneously called the culture war. Our government has been filled with globalists whose intention is to destroy the USA so it can be part of the global government. Many of these traitors are secret satanists and pedophiles. How do you think the prophesied global government comes about in Revelations?

Why do you think Trump is so viscerally hated? He was not one of the chosen candidates by the globalists who fix every election. They were shocked that the will of the people over rided their plan. Trump does not take a salary. He is working as our president for free. He did not borrow money from the international bankers or foreign nations like Hillary and the others did. He paid for his campaign out of his own pocket.

Did you know that 6 corporations own all the major media venues? They want us to believe what they tell us, not what is actually happening. Go to You Tube and look for video compilations of TV anchors from all over the country reading the exact same script. People all over the world are waking up to the globalist control.

Did you know the Ashkinazi Jewish family in England known as the Rothschilds own almost all of the central banks in the world. Their great grandfather, Amschel Rothschild, is famous for saying, " Give me control of a nation's economy and care not who governs it."

In 2015 an alliance was formed by patriot generals in the USA to legal restore the republic and take it back out of the hands of the globalists and return it to We the People who created the republic. They approached Donald Trump and asked him to run for president, giving him the plan to drain the swamp, and a plan to wake up the citizens. The highest security clearance in the government is called Q clearance. A team of Q clearance members were assigned the task of dropping hints about what is actually going on to at first the 4 chan board then the 8 chan board. Those forums remain anonymous so people can speak freely with out fear of retributions, thus the group of people are called Anons. The drops from the Q team have been given since October 28, 2017. Since the deep state, which is the intelligence community of the CIA, FBI and DOJ know about the drops they read them too. Consequently many things said by Q are deliberately misleading to throw them off. The drops, then, are somewhat in coded form and it takes watching the news and knowing the players in the news to understand what has been said.

If you want to see the drops for yourself, they are archived at Qanon.pub . The mainstream media has vociferously attacked the drops calling it a "conspiracy" and "fringe". Yet, one has to wonder, if they are just a "lunatic fringe" why has there been so much hostility towards it?
Alex you seem to have side-swiped Hank’s question.
 
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He paid for his campaign out of his own pocket.
I appreciate your taking the time to explain. Most everything in your post I have heard before here on this forum and I did a little research of my own about those things as well.
Here is some info that may not mean anything to you but maybe it will.

Top contributor of over 15 m was Renaissance Technologies LLC. Who are they and who ran the company?

Renaissance Technologies LLC is an American hedge fund firm based in East Setauket, New York, [5] on Long Island, which specializes in systematic trading using quantitative models derived from mathematical and statistical analyses.
Simons ran Renaissance until his retirement in late 2009.[11] The company is now run by Peter Brown (after Robert Mercer resigned), both of them were computer scientists specializing in computational linguistics who joined Renaissance in 1993 from IBM Research. From Wiki


Who's Robert Mercer? and his daughter Rebekah.
She owns a cookie store. He loves model trains. They both hate the Clintons. And beyond that, not much is clear about the motivations of the Mercer father-daughter duo of Republican megadonors who have become two of the most powerful people in the country over the last 18 months.
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The Mercers have been a quiet but constant presence in the background of Republican politics since the beginning of the 2016 cycle. They started the campaign as backers of Ted Cruz, pouring millions into one of the main super PACs supporting his candidacy. Their data firm, Cambridge Analytica, was hired by the Cruz campaign. They switched to support Trump shortly after he clinched the nomination, and he eventually hired Cambridge Analytica, as well. Their top political guru is Steve Bannon, the former Breitbart News chairman and White House chief strategist. They’re close, too, with Trump’s campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, who also has a senior role in the White House.

What Do Robert and Rebekah Mercer Really Want? - The Atlantic
Last month, a friend of the wealthy conservative donor Rebekah Mercer arrived at Facebook’s Silicon Valley headquarters. His task: Find out what — if anything — could repair relations between Facebook, the world’s biggest social media company, and Cambridge Analytica, the voter-profiling firm co-founded by her father and used by the Trump campaign.
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A pro-Trump advocacy group controlled by Ms. Mercer has gone silent following strategic disputes between her and other top donors. Plans to wage a civil war against the Republican establishment in the 2018 midterms have been derailed.

Facebook Fallout Deals Blow to Mercers’ Political Clout
Mr. Bannon and the Mercers also stand out as more pugilistic in their tactics and ideology, bonding less over a shared cohesive political ideology than over a desire to disrupt the political establishment — the Republican establishment in particular.
Alabama Victory Provides Blueprint for New Bannon Alliance
 
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Why Do Some People Believe in Conspiracy Theories?
Although conspiracy beliefs can occasionally be based on a rational analysis of the evidence, most of the time they are not. As a species, one of our greatest strengths is our ability to find meaningful patterns in the world around us and to make causal inferences. We sometimes, however, see patterns and causal connections that are not there, especially when we feel that events are beyond our control.


The attractiveness of conspiracy theories may arise from a number of cognitive biases that characterize the way we process information. “Confirmation bias” is the most pervasive cognitive bias and a powerful driver of belief in conspiracies. We all have a natural inclination to give more weight to evidence that supports what we already believe and ignore evidence that contradicts our beliefs. The real-world events that often become the subject of conspiracy theories tend to be intrinsically complex and unclear. Early reports may contain errors, contradictions and ambiguities, and those wishing to find evidence of a cover-up will focus on such inconsistencies to bolster their claims.


“Proportionality bias,” our innate tendency to assume that big events have big causes, may also explain our tendency to accept conspiracies.
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Another relevant cognitive bias is “projection.” People who endorse conspiracy theories may be more likely to engage in conspiratorial behaviors themselves, such as spreading rumors or tending to be suspicious of others' motives. If you would engage in such behavior, it may seem natural that other people would as well, making conspiracies appear more plausible and widespread. Furthermore, people who are strongly inclined toward conspiratorial thinking will be more likely to endorse mutually contradictory theories.
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None of the above should indicate that all conspiracy theories are false. Some may indeed turn out to be true. The point is that some individuals may have a tendency to find such theories attractive. The crux of the matter is that conspiracists are not really sure what the true explanation of an event is—they are simply certain that the “official story” is a cover-up.
Why Do Some People Believe in Conspiracy Theories?

As you suggest, there's also the "We know things you don't know" effect, where people feel a sense of belonging and superiority over the "sheeple" they think are unaware of the conspiracy.
 
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Why Do Some People Believe in Conspiracy Theories?
Although conspiracy beliefs can occasionally be based on a rational analysis of the evidence, most of the time they are not. As a species, one of our greatest strengths is our ability to find meaningful patterns in the world around us and to make causal inferences. We sometimes, however, see patterns and causal connections that are not there, especially when we feel that events are beyond our control.


The attractiveness of conspiracy theories may arise from a number of cognitive biases that characterize the way we process information. “Confirmation bias” is the most pervasive cognitive bias and a powerful driver of belief in conspiracies. We all have a natural inclination to give more weight to evidence that supports what we already believe and ignore evidence that contradicts our beliefs. The real-world events that often become the subject of conspiracy theories tend to be intrinsically complex and unclear. Early reports may contain errors, contradictions and ambiguities, and those wishing to find evidence of a cover-up will focus on such inconsistencies to bolster their claims.


“Proportionality bias,” our innate tendency to assume that big events have big causes, may also explain our tendency to accept conspiracies.
...
Another relevant cognitive bias is “projection.” People who endorse conspiracy theories may be more likely to engage in conspiratorial behaviors themselves, such as spreading rumors or tending to be suspicious of others' motives. If you would engage in such behavior, it may seem natural that other people would as well, making conspiracies appear more plausible and widespread. Furthermore, people who are strongly inclined toward conspiratorial thinking will be more likely to endorse mutually contradictory theories.
...
None of the above should indicate that all conspiracy theories are false. Some may indeed turn out to be true. The point is that some individuals may have a tendency to find such theories attractive. The crux of the matter is that conspiracists are not really sure what the true explanation of an event is—they are simply certain that the “official story” is a cover-up.
Why Do Some People Believe in Conspiracy Theories?

As you suggest, there's also the "We know things you don't know" effect, where people feel a sense of belonging and superiority over the "sheeple" they think are unaware of the conspiracy.
Yup. Good post. I’m always amazed when people claim to know about a plot to harm people (the Illuminati/deep state kind of stuff) yet refuse to share the details that would help others “join the resistance” so to speak. How can you beat the deep state if you refuse to tell people what you know and back it up with evidence?
 
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Contributions are gifts, not borrowed money. I meant he did not borrow from any bank.
What difference would that make? That just says that there are people who are not as wealthy or well connected that need to borrow money in order to run. The average income citizen rather than only the elite.
 
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Contributions are gifts, not borrowed money.

That's how "pay for play" works.

I meant he did not borrow from any bank.

They'd expect him to pay it back. So do the contributors. Just in different ways.
 
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