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Perhaps, if you were not so focused on the fact that this movie was made by a Catholic, you could have seen it for what it was, minus all the anti-Catholic myths you read into it . .
Only God can move a person's heart and move them to change!You know what it DOES DO?? It opens peoples' hearts to hear the voice of the Holy Spirit calling them to repentance, to the Holy Spirit convicting them of sin, to the Holy Spirit prompting them to call or go to a Church, to the Holy Spirit prompting them to read the bible . .
Where exactly in the movie does it say that we are all sinners? The word sinners is not even mentioned! Where did it say in the movie that it was our sins that He was nailed to the cross? Or that salvation is only through Him alone and eternal damnation without? The closest it ever came was Jesus saying that He was the good sheperd in a flashback sequence.And it most certainly DID convey that we are sinners and that it is WE who put Jesus on the Cross . . my goodness, the look in Mary's eyes and face at the end, while holding Jesus, begs you to consider what your sins have done to Jesus and what are you going to do about it?
By focussing on His passion, His suffering, and not the wondrous glory of what it accomplished, it humiliates our Lord! We see Him at His most defeated and shamed, a moment which was very brief in the scheme of things. In Galations 3:13 it says that 'cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree' It is exactly where satan wants Him, defeated in pain and shame on the cross and not the conquerer of death and our Lord!The movie was about His PASSION, not about His resurrection . .that is why it is called The PASSION of The Christ . . .
The second commndment has nothing to do with this movie in any way shape or form . . this is a red herring that distracts from the truth . .
An actor is just that, an actor playing role . . an actor is not meant to be an exact replica of the one he/she is protraying. They try the best they can . .but we all know the person we are seeing on the screen is an actor , . not Christ Himself . . so, where's the beef?
The reasons you have set forth as justification for your comment that the movie is not "bible based" are absolutely flawed, biased and utterly baseless . .
And what was added in no way contradicted or detracted from what as contained in the Gospel accounts . ..Symes said:Mel made this movie as a Catholic. He portrayed each scene as a Catholic would think it was. He has added much to what is said in the gospels.
Symes said:Mel made this movie as a Catholic. He portrayed each scene as a Catholic would think it was. He has added much to what is said in the gospels.
You know what it DOES DO?? It opens peoples' hearts to hear the voice of the Holy Spirit calling them to repentance said:cristabelle said:Only God can move a person's heart and move them to change!
The Holy Spirit IS God.
By focussing on His passion, His suffering, and not the wondrous glory of what it accomplished, it humiliates our Lord! We see Him at His most defeated and shamed, a moment which was very brief in the scheme of things.
Perhaps you were unaware of what the movie was going to show when it was titled "The Passion of The Christ"?
Perhaps even now you should read the many scriptiures that speak of the cross, of Christ crucified, of the Lamb as if slain...
The two hour visual we get of Jesus being flagellated and crucified obscures His glory, His deity, His victory on the cross, and His present kingdom. It shows His human weakness, his physical suffering, but we don't see His joy or His power!
Then you need to see the film again.
Where He explains that he lays His life down and he raises it up again.
Where he says to His mother, "I make all things new."
Where he says "It is accomplished.", which points to Luke 18:31-33.
Where we see Him rise from the dead.
Christianity is based on words and not images, if it were then the bible would be a picture book. The Holy Spirit teaches those who believe in Him through words
Icons are words, yet mortal men looking with mortal eys would call them paintings.
'Faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ' Romans 10:17
Then we should not have Bibles, nor should we READ any words about God.
Regarding your 1st question: In the garden, Satan was telling Jesus that no man could bear the burden of everyone's sin. He said that several times. That sounds pretty plain to me.cristabelle said:Where did it say in the movie that it was our sins that He was nailed to the cross? Or that salvation is only through Him alone and eternal damnation without?
There is no point in trying to come to any sensible conclusion about this movie as there will never be any agreement in points of views, regardless of what the bible says about certain things.
The Bible has been followed in that movie, you haven't even watched it Symes, go watch it then you'll be able to give an accurate description of what it is.Symes said:
We can and should only follow the Bible. There maybe some good come from the movie.
Much more good could have come from it if the Bible had of been followed instead of allowing his (Gibson's) own theology to come through.
The Bible has been followed in that movie, you haven't even watched it Symes, go watch it then you'll be able to give an accurate description of what it is.
Most of my friends are SDA's and they all loved the movie, I think you'll like it too.
I would say your sources are not reliable . . . it is really too bad Symes, that you allow others to influence you in this manner . . you are missing out on something very special . .Symes said:I have read some reports from a very reliable source and they say different. I will not be seeing. I have better things to do than look at a false way the gospel being presented.
I would say your sources are not reliable . . . it is really too bad Symes, that you allow others to influence you in this manner . . you are missing out on something very special . .
Symes said:
My sources are reliable. I have an open mind to things and view them as I see them, comparing what is said to what is in Scripture.
There is a difference to what is in the movie and what is in the Bible.
I agree, the stuff in the movie that's in the Bible is represented accurately, whatever is not in the Bible was created in a way that does not contradict the Bible, we should not receive that as scripture and truth because it's not in the Bible, but does not contradict Scriptures.clinzey said:But there is a difference between altering the Biblical account and using artistic lisence to fill in gaps in the Biblical account.
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