[MOVED] What happens when a non-NASA astronaut is asked about the shape of the earth?

[Strathos]

There are laser reflectors on the moon placed there by astronauts, and if you have the right equipment you can still bounce a laser off of them and measure the distance. Many people have done it, but I guess they're all part of the conspiracy, right?

 

[renniks]

Momma says NASA is the devil!

 

[SeventyOne]

Momma says NASA is the devil!

Funny you should mention that. Here's a former CIA official stating that NASA is not a space agency, but rather a tool for mind control.

 

[SeventyOne]

There are laser reflectors on the moon placed there by astronauts, and if you have the right equipment you can still bounce a laser off of them and measure the distance. Many people have done it, but I guess they're all part of the conspiracy, right?

Don't know what to tell you, other than the guy in my OP was right, the earth is flat. Gotta let the chips fall where they may after that.

 

[Brightmoon]

I was looking at the full moon a few days ago . It looked like a flat disk against the sky . There are other times that I’ve seen the moon and it is obviously rounded like a ball. That cosmonaut saw an illusion of the earth and commented on it. The earth is not flat as a flat earth makes no sense

 

[sjastro]

Also, it's cute you think we've been to the moon. If you haven't seen through that hoax, it's no wonder a FE won't make sense to you as you haven't even yet realized there is a bigger hoax still.

So why didn't the Soviet Union see through the hoax having lost the space race to the moon and receiving a black eye in the Cold War propaganda as a result.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Why cant computers be real and moon landings be fake?

I mean aside from the particular evidence, but just as a matter of logical principle?

The technology didn't exist to fake the moon landing TV broadcasts or the 1/6 gravity in the films.

 

[renniks]

Don't know what to tell you, other than the guy in my OP was right, the earth is flat. Gotta let the chips fall where they may after that.

How do you explain air travel? Why does the sun go below the Western horizon, and rise up in the east every day? Why does the horizon curve? How about the changing seasons? How does that work if the Earth isn't moving? I could go on and on and on and on and on....

 

[SeventyOne]

So why didn't the Soviet Union see through the hoax having lost the space race to the moon and receiving a black eye in the Cold War propaganda as a result.

For the same reason when two scammers are pulling identical scams on the same group of people don't out each other. They don't want to get caught themselves.

 

[SeventyOne]

How do you explain air travel? Why does the sun go below the Western horizon, and rise up in the east every day? Why does the horizon curve? How about the changing seasons? How does that work if the Earth isn't moving? I could go on and on and on and on and on....

I'm sure you could. Please see my response in post 128.

 

[renniks]

I'm sure you could. Please see my response in post 128.

I just want to know if you deny the evidence of your own senses. You would have to believe almost every person on Earth was in on the conspiracy. That is some serious paranoia.

 

[sjastro]

For the same reason when two scammers are pulling identical scams on the same group of people don't out each other. They don't want to get caught themselves.

I see logical thinking is not one of your strong points.
If the moon landing was a hoax with both sides scamming each other than why didn't the Soviets produce their own Hollywood version of cosmonauts reaching the moon.

 

[SeventyOne]

I just want to know if you deny the evidence of your own senses. You would have to believe almost every person on Earth was in on the conspiracy. That is some serious paranoia.

You are free to hold on to any misconception you wish. I have nothing to prove to you.

 

[SeventyOne]

I see logical thinking is not one of your strong points.
If the moon landing was a hoax with both sides scamming each other than why didn't the Soviets produce their own Hollywood version of cosmonauts reaching the moon.

You'd have to ask them. But if you want to comment on either the astronaut affirming the flat earth or the CIA guy affirming NASA isn't space agency, but rather a mind control apparatus, that would be awesome, as it is the point of the thread.

 

[sjastro]

You'd have to ask them. But if you want to comment on either the astronaut affirming the flat earth or the CIA guy affirming NASA isn't space agency, but rather a mind control apparatus, that would be awesome, as it is the point of the thread.

I'm asking you because you are the one making the claim.
The burden of proof is on you; deflecting the issue is a capitulation.

 

[renniks]

You'd have to ask them. But if you want to comment on either the astronaut affirming the flat earth or the CIA guy affirming NASA isn't space agency, but rather a mind control apparatus, that would be awesome, as it is the point of the thread.

Did it ever occur to you, that perhaps the ones doing the deceiving are the ones making Goofy fake " flat Earth proof" videos for YouTube?

 

[sjastro]

I was looking at the full moon a few days ago . It looked like a flat disk against the sky . There are other times that I’ve seen the moon and it is obviously rounded like a ball. That cosmonaut saw an illusion of the earth and commented on it. The earth is not flat as a flat earth makes no sense

If the moon was flat we would see 50% of its surface.
In reality we see 59% of the surface.
This is due to libration resulting in a wobbling effect of the moon as seen from Earth.

 

[JackRT]

Newtonian physics is already under heavy bombardment by other heliocentric models, such as the electric universe theory. It doesn't need the FE model to be ultimately rendered ineffective.

Also, it's cute you think we've been to the moon. If you haven't seen through that hoax, it's no wonder a FE won't make sense to you as you haven't even yet realized there is a bigger hoax still.

Newtonian physics is still quite alive and healthy and is still accurate when velocities remain sub relativistic. There is no hoax.

 

[JackRT]

I see logical thinking is not one of your strong points.
If the moon landing was a hoax with both sides scamming each other than why didn't the Soviets produce their own Hollywood version of cosmonauts reaching the moon.

The Soviet moon project was not far behind the USAnian program but its heavy lifter was flawed. It blew up on every one of it's test flights. It's last launch was especially disasterous because it veered off course and the resulting explosion killed a large number of their leading scientists and engineers. That is reality. There is no fraud.

 

[sjastro]

The Soviet moon project was not far behind the USAnian program but its heavy lifter was flawed. It blew up on every one it's test flights. It's last launch was especially disasterous because it veered off course and the resulting explosion killed a large number of their leading scientists and engineers. That is reality. There is no fraud.

In fact the hoax perpetrated by the Soviets was that they were never in a race to the moon with the US.
https://www.history.com/news/space-race-soviet-union-moon-landing-denial