[moved from C&E] Religions call people Atheists.

[AV1611VET]

When a child is born they are born Atheist.

A baby is a blank canvas...

-- No comment.

Atheisim in babies?

No, but it seems to me you're arguing that, to be an atheist entails: no intelligence required.

 

[wensdee]

You decide:
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What's the matter can't you answer for yourself? do other people do all of your thinking for you? do they also tell you what to believe? has it always been like this?
If you're not quoting the bible you're quoting someone else, how about you start thinking for yourself?

 

[AV1611VET]

(Why the heck do I always end up playing dev... er, religion's advocate in these threads? )

If MoonLancer wins this point, think about what you guys are really saying.

In any event, Jesus would never refer to a child as an atheist, and neither should we.

In fact, He said the opposite:

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

 

[wensdee]

No, but it seems to me you're arguing that, to be an atheist entails: no intelligence required.

No intelligence about gods is what being an Atheist is all about, before anyone can become religious they must be told what it is they should be religious about, that's why there are so many religions throughout the world because everyone has different ideas about what gods are and what they can do, you were just unlucky to be pointed towards creationism.

 

[AV1611VET]

What's the matter can't you answer for yourself? do other people do all of your thinking for you? do they also tell you what to believe? has it always been like this?
If you're not quoting the bible you're quoting someone else, how about you start thinking for yourself?

Hahahahaha -- oh man!

Thank you, wensdee, for making my day!

This is solid, 100% pure aurum of the highest order!

Embedded age?* water to Neptune? Noah from New Jersey? I'm not a Homo sapiens?

I need to learn to start thinking for myself, don't I?

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

(Check your reps -- )

* Okay, skip the Embedded Age -- but you guys think I made it up.

 

[AV1611VET]

No intelligence about gods is what being an Atheist is all about, before anyone can become religious they must be told what it is they should be religious about, that's why there are so many religions throughout the world because everyone has different ideas about what gods are and what they can do, you were just unlucky to be pointed towards creationism.

I need to log off right now --

When I come back, may I put you on my Friend's List?

 

[wensdee]

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Be converted from Atheism and stop thinking for yourself just be like a child and do as your told.

 

[wensdee]

When I come back, may I put you on my Friend's List?

I would rather you didn't because I might be considered guilty by association.

 

[wensdee]

water to Neptune? Noah from New Jersey? I'm not a Homo sapiens?

You don't honestly call that thinking do you? most considered that to be the ramblings of a religious crank,
are you saying those crazy ideas came out of your head? I do hope not.

 

[AV1611VET]

I would rather you didn't because I might be considered guilty by association.

No problem -- I understand.

I get falsely accused too --

 

[AV1611VET]

You don't honestly call that thinking do you?

Of course not --

most considered that to be the ramblings of a religious crank,

No kidding -- at least I get the credit for having authored it; that's more than God's secretaries get.

are you saying those crazy ideas came out of your head?

Ya, buddy!

I do hope not.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I consider them educated suppositions.

 

[MoonLancer]

When a child is born do they lack the belief in god? Yes or No?

I see AV. you decided not to answer this question? Fair enough. The implications of such are well read.

 

[wensdee]

Sorry to disappoint you, but I consider them educated suppositions.

That's just plain sad, I think what they did to you is against the law, if it's not then it should be.

 

[Doveaman]

(Why the heck do I always end up playing dev... er, religion's advocate in these threads? )

Is it because you are a soft Atheist, one who is open to accepting religion?

 

[Doveaman]

When a child is born they are born Atheist. This persists until someone convinces them otherwise. Normally parents who force it on them or friends and peers who pressure them.

Does this mean a child is also born dumb until they are pressured into accepting education?

 

[MoonLancer]

Does this mean a child is also born dumb until they are pressured into education?

no. born ignorant? yes. Intelligence deals with the ability to learn. An Intelligent person learns quite easily while a dumb person struggles to learn. This should also not be confused with learning disability which means the person cannot learn one way but learns without problem in another way.

 

[Doveaman]

no. born ignorant? yes.

So new born babies are ignorant. Got it.

 

[MoonLancer]

So new born babies are ignorant. Got it.

yes. btw if your trying to do what i think your trying to do it wont work.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's just plain sad, I think what they did to you is against the law, if it's not then it should be.

Arrest me -- I'll plead 'guilty'.

As my pastor says, when they outlaw a [certain topic] here in America as a hate crime, and the government says we can't preach against it anymore, then they will have to come and arrest me.

 

[AV1611VET]

An Intelligent person learns quite easily while a dumb person struggles to learn.

What's 'quite easily' to you? 1 day? 1 week? a year?

I could, at one time, play Chess blindfolded; but I can't drive and talk at the same time, and it took years before I memorized the streets in my neighborhood.

My dad, whose ambition was to play THE Marion Tinsley in Checkers, could whip me like a dog on the checkerboard, even though I have several trophies in Chess.

But I come here and I see intelligence is measured by how strong an atheist one is.