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Mother of NYC murder victim shouts down Democrat lawmaker: 'Don't insult my intelligence'

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"Don't insult my intelligence," Brame interjected as Chairman Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, attempted to maintain order. "You're trying to insult me like I'm not aware of what's going on here. I'm fully aware of what's going on here, OK? That's why I walked away from the plantation of the Democratic Party."
The ruling class policies are not working. You can see by the election results that most people in the big cities such as Chicago still buy the propaganda, but not all. It is my hope for this country that at some point, and things might need to get really bad first, the people of this nation will reverse course.
 

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The ruling class policies are not working.
The hearing was about crime statistics.

'The mother, Madeline Brame, was one of many witnesses to testify before the committee during Monday's hearing highlighting the crime problem in Manhattan.'

We can see the overall picture for NYC from here: NYPD Announces Citywide Crime Statistics for February 2023.

"For the month of February 2023, overall index crime compared to February 2022 declined by 5.6% (8,785 v. 9,304) – driving a 0.4% (18,909 v. 18,976) reduction in overall index crime year-to-date compared to 2022.

February 2023 also saw the number of overall shooting incidents and murders in New York City both continue their week-over-week and month-over-month declines. Additionally, the number of hate crimes in New York City declined by 69% (27 v. 86) in February 2023 compared to the same period a year ago.

In the city’s subway system, major crimes fell by 9.1% (169 v. 186) in February 2023 compared to the same period last year, representing the second consecutive month of crime declines in the subway system. Consequently, transit index crimes are down 19.4%

Regarding the citywide decreases in overall index crime for February 2023, compared to February 2022, they were experienced in six of the NYPD’s eight patrol boroughs. Notably, the NYPD has driven a 10.5% decrease in citywide robberies in February 2023.

Police coverage has helped to drive a 5.2% decrease in major crimes for February 2023 compared to February 2022, with a 31% decrease in shootings in all public housing areas for the month of February. Robberies in all city housing areas fell by 11.8% (75 v. 85) in the last month."

Looks like some policies are most definitely working. In fact, If these were figures from any Republican area you'd be shouting them from the rooftops.
 
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The hearing was about crime statistics.

'The mother, Madeline Brame, was one of many witnesses to testify before the committee during Monday's hearing highlighting the crime problem in Manhattan.'

We can see the overall picture for NYC from here: NYPD Announces Citywide Crime Statistics for February 2023.

"For the month of February 2023, overall index crime compared to February 2022 declined by 5.6% (8,785 v. 9,304) – driving a 0.4% (18,909 v. 18,976) reduction in overall index crime year-to-date compared to 2022.

February 2023 also saw the number of overall shooting incidents and murders in New York City both continue their week-over-week and month-over-month declines. Additionally, the number of hate crimes in New York City declined by 69% (27 v. 86) in February 2023 compared to the same period a year ago.

In the city’s subway system, major crimes fell by 9.1% (169 v. 186) in February 2023 compared to the same period last year, representing the second consecutive month of crime declines in the subway system. Consequently, transit index crimes are down 19.4%

Regarding the citywide decreases in overall index crime for February 2023, compared to February 2022, they were experienced in six of the NYPD’s eight patrol boroughs. Notably, the NYPD has driven a 10.5% decrease in citywide robberies in February 2023.

Police coverage has helped to drive a 5.2% decrease in major crimes for February 2023 compared to February 2022, with a 31% decrease in shootings in all public housing areas for the month of February. Robberies in all city housing areas fell by 11.8% (75 v. 85) in the last month."

Looks like some policies are most definitely working. In fact, If these were figures from any Republican area you'd be shouting them from the rooftops.
Bragg's policy from the first day was to not CHARGE a lot of people for breaking the law. It's the same for hate crimes, just because today you don't charge black teenagers singling out and beating up an Asian-American does not mean it is not a hate crime, even though it doesn't show up in the statistics. There are plenty of violent crimes being committed and the people are suffering as a result. There are many repeat offenders. Mrs. Brame's son, a veteran, was stabbed and killed by some gang bangers. When her husband tried to come to his defense he was beaten up and has life altering injuries. They didn't know the perpetrators. Bragg cut a deal with one of the gang bangers and that person has been released, back out on the streets. Bragg was handed a case against the four from the previous D.A. but decided to go soft, and an excuse offered to Mrs. Brame was that the city did not have enough money to prosecute. The city has already spent 250 MILLION DOLLARS going after Trump! One of the politicians said she was being used as a "prop," and she has challenged that "rich black man" to come down to the hood and see the real plight of the people.
I am curious, how did the Australian news report what has been going on in Chicago the last few nights, which is a very similar situation to New York?
 
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Bragg's policy from the first day was to not CHARGE a lot of people for breaking the law. It's the same for hate crimes, just because today you don't charge black teenagers singling out and beating up an Asian-American does not mean it is not a hate crime, even though it doesn't show up in the statistics.
So you say that there are no statistics. I guess maybe you know someone who keeps a record of all beatings that don't result in charges being made and the reasons for that. I'll be keen to see it. We can compare the last year for which you have those details to previous years. Let's do it it! But anecdotes? Let me be blunt. I'm not the slightest bit interested, so don't waste your time. And more importantly, don't waste mine.
 
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Bragg cut a deal with one of the gang bangers and that person has been released, back out on the streets. Bragg was handed a case against the four from the previous D.A. but decided to go soft...
In passing, a girl who was present wasn't charged with with murder and served just over a year. Another person, male, was sentenced to 7 years. The two people who actually committed the murder were charged with it, found guilty and sentenced to 20 years to life.
 
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Bragg's policy from the first day was to not CHARGE a lot of people for breaking the law. It's the same for hate crimes, just because today you don't charge black teenagers singling out and beating up an Asian-American does not mean it is not a hate crime, even though it doesn't show up in the statistics.
When did that happen?
 
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In passing, a girl who was present wasn't charged with with murder and served just over a year. Another person, male, was sentenced to 7 years. The two people who actually committed the murder were charged with it, found guilty and sentenced to 20 years to life.
Her complaints were about Bragg downgrading the charges of one of the participants of the attack, she said he will be out in eighteen months, and letting the other participant go. She was told that a trial would cost too much money for the city, a city that has already spent 250 million dollars going after Trump.
 
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Her complaints were about Bragg downgrading the charges of one of the participants of the attack, she said he will be out in eighteen months, and letting the other participant go. She was told that a trial would cost too much money for the city, a city that has already spent 250 million dollars going after Trump.
When did that happen?
Hate crimes happen quite a bit in New York and Chicago. Now I don't say there are hate crime CHARGES, recently there was a hate crime in Bellvue, Washington and Garland didn't want to bring federal hate crime charges. I mentioned Chicago the past few nights, they may not show the crimes on the left wing networks, but see for yourself. Go to @CWBChicago, there was an attack on Wabash, the tweet was 12 hours ago, what are the chances hate crime charges will be filed? Look at the rest of the videos, see for yourself.
 
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Hate crimes happen quite a bit in New York and Chicago. Now I don't say there are hate crime CHARGES, recently there was a hate crime in Bellvue, Washington and Garland didn't want to bring federal hate crime charges. I mentioned Chicago the past few nights, they may not show the crimes on the left wing networks, but see for yourself. Go to @CWBChicago, there was an attack on Wabash, the tweet was 12 hours ago, what are the chances hate crime charges will be filed? Look at the rest of the videos, see for yourself.
I mean it's pretty brutal, but based on the videos I've seen there is no evidence that this meets the parameters of a hate crime. And federal hate crime charges are pretty rare to begin with because of how hard it is to prove.
 
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Ah, there it is. That's really what this hearing and this thread are about. Their Messiah is being crucified!! They have to do something!
Spending money for political purposes is illegal. As Mrs. Brame said not one penny of federal money should be D.A. Bragg's office for such purposes. How many lives could have been saved were that money spent to keep violent criminals in jail?
 
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Spending money for political purposes is illegal. As Mrs. Brame said not one penny of federal money should be D.A. Bragg's office for such purposes. How many lives could have been saved were that money spent to keep violent criminals in jail?
Sure, sure.
 
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"Don't insult my intelligence," Brame interjected as Chairman Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, attempted to maintain order. "You're trying to insult me like I'm not aware of what's going on here. I'm fully aware of what's going on here, OK? That's why I walked away from the plantation of the Democratic Party."
That comment says it all. Maybe she should take another look at what plantations looked like.

Jordan's careful witness selection:

"While some 90 percent of New York homicides involve a firearm, all the killings described by the witnesses were committed with a knife."​
Imagine that.
Yes Brame, you are being used.
 
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That comment says it all. Maybe she should take another look at what plantations looked like.

Jordan's careful witness selection:

"While some 90 percent of New York homicides involve a firearm, all the killings described by the witnesses were committed with a knife."​
Imagine that.
Yes Brame, you are being used.
Do think that makes a difference to Mrs. Brame? Focus on the human loss and tragedy, not the weapon used by violent criminals. The hard left policies have consequences!
 
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Do think that makes a difference to Mrs. Brame? Focus on the human loss and tragedy, not the weapon used by violent criminals. The hard left policies have consequences!
Of course not, being used or not. Making nutty statements or not. Is of no consequence to her.
 
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