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Interesting - I've never read that the RCC is considered a "cult" in any professional or academic writings on "cults". Have you ?
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It's SELF alone declaring what God did or said (with SELF ALONE designating self alone as the SOLE one to interpret what is in the heart of self alone and then appointing self alone as the arbiter for correctness of the intepretations of self alone of what is in the 'heart' of self alone to support the claim of self alone for self alone). Yes, self alone claims it for self alone, then self alone uses such as a perfect circle. Studied any of the cults? Studied the early LDS?
Right. If God implanted doctrines into us, He'd implant the same in each.then why is there so many disagrements on doctrine?
Then why are you disagreeing with me? I have the truth given to me by the Holy Spirit!
Now if I'm understanding you correctly, you are claiming to 1. Have the Holy Spirit which 2.cannot inhabit both you and someone with whom you disagree therefore 3. I do not have the Holy Spirit.The Holy Spirit gives all truth. Therefore, we can't BOTH have the Holy Spirit. God isn't the author of confusion. If a prophet tells us to follow foreign gods, we don't listen.
Interesting - I've never read that the RCC is considered a "cult" in any professional or academic writings on "cults". Have you ?Josiah said:It's SELF alone declaring what God did or said (with SELF ALONE designating self alone as the SOLE one to interpret what is in the heart of self alone and then appointing self alone as the arbiter for correctness of the intepretations of self alone of what is in the 'heart' of self alone to support the claim of self alone for self alone). Yes, self alone claims it for self alone, then self alone uses such as a perfect circle. Studied any of the cults? Studied the early LDS?
Now if I'm understanding you correctly, you are claiming to 1. Have the Holy Spirit which 2.cannot inhabit both you and someone with whom you disagree therefore 3. I do not have the Holy Spirit.
Did I miss anything?
Please ask the Holy Spirit for me.
Thanks.
I'm just going to go sacrifice to Molech now.
Josiah said:It's SELF alone declaring what God did or said (with SELF ALONE designating self alone as the SOLE one to interpret what is in the heart of self alone and then appointing self alone as the arbiter for correctness of the intepretations of self alone of what is in the 'heart' of self alone to support the claim of self alone for self alone). Yes, self alone claims it for self alone, then self alone uses such as a perfect circle. Studied any of the cults? Studied the early LDS?
If I told you that my employer appointed me to be a service technician, it's not me appointing myself.
I read it the same way. Your constant guilt-by-association fallacy is transparent, CJ.If you read what you quoted, your question and confusion will both vanish.
Then perhaps you might consider responding to what is posted?
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Therefore, since we disagree "on really important topics," one of us is an impostor.I don't think I said WHO has the Holy Spirit. I just said not everyone can have him. That's true if people disagree about really important topics.
And the bible never authorizes itself in the sense of its contents.Actually, it's YOU exclusively CLAIMING something for YOU exclusively.
Now, if you had some written document from that employer, that would be different. The document we have from God is called His "Scripture" and as we all know, it never once so much as even MENTIONS the RCC or LDS or any other denomination (at all, for anything, regarding anything).
I disagree with you that if self alone claims remarkable things for self alone, ergo much is from God.
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Therefore, since we disagree "on really important topics," one of us is an impostor.
Cool.
Josiah said:ivebeenshown said:If I told you that my employer appointed me to be a service technician, it's not me appointing myself.
No. It's YOU claiming something for yourself. That's it. That's all.
Your argument is broken.
Only if self has the authority from God to speak in such a way. You know, like how Paul writes 'this is a true saying', and it's true, because he has that inspired and infallible authority.Okay. I alone say that I alone am infallible and sinless. Ergo, I am?
If self claims whatever for self, ergo God agrees and it is indisputably so?
Ha, ha.Are you embracing a radical form of "name it, claim it?"
Or perhaps considering Mormonism?
Josiah said:ivebeenshown said:If I told you that my employer appointed me to be a service technician, it's not me appointing myself.
No. It's YOU claiming something for yourself. That's it. That's all.
Only if self has the authority from God to speak in such a way.
You just quoted the answer in your very post.OR are you insisting that because the LDS claims much for the LDS alone, ergo all such is true?
Josiah said:ivebeenshown said:Josiah said:ivebeenshown said:If I told you that my employer appointed me to be a service technician, it's not me appointing myself.
No. It's YOU claiming something for yourself. That's it. That's all.
Only if self has the authority from God to speak in such a way.
... according to the claim of self for self.
...and I don't believe LDS has that authority.
Good for them?Of course, they do claim it - and believe it.
It's not that simple.And your rubric for evaluating such is what SELF alone claims for SELF alone.
Well, that's what you believe. I believe otherwise. So when you say 'truth is', I disagree -- 'truth isn't.'Truth is, NEITHER of you were ever promised, authorized, or exempted of or from ANYTHING. By Jesus, by any Apostle. None of them so much as even MENTIONED either of you - even once. For anything, about anything, concerning anything - even just completely in passing. It's EXACTLY as you stated: SELF alone claiming huge stuff for SELF alone. That's it. That's all.
Josiah said:ivebeenshown said:If I told you that my employer appointed me to be a service technician, it's not me appointing myself.
No. It's YOU claiming something for yourself. That's it. That's all.
It's not that simple.
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