Most controversial?

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

Or Relient K. I hear they smoke!

Oh my word, mother's hide your children.
This is a sure sign of the end....


Someone hold me? I'm scared

 

[foo-oswald]

Or Relient K. I hear they smoke!

Yeah! And I hear they're going secular and re-releasing their album with all the "Christian words" removed and that the lead singer got a tattoo of the Dalai Lama on his b*tt and that they *gasp* don't go to church on Sundays 'cause they're "on tour" or something...

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

*Sign of the Fish takes out her lighter, and sets her Reliant K albums a blaze*

 

[Amongst the Flock]

Or Relient K. I hear they smoke!

Smoking does pollute your body with toxins and poison.

It causes lung cancer and shortens your lifespan.

There would be a difference between trying to overcome it and just saying oh well.

Makes me want to go see Dave Matthews band so I can get a contact high.

Then I can justify getting high because I didn't intend on smoking weed but just inhaled and exhaled deeply for 3 hours so I could get the contact high.

 

[Z500]

Just think of the name.

What do you find in a cradle?

Would it be a baby?

So what filth is there in a cradle with a baby?

What a bunch of sickos to name a band after hinting at child molestation.

Hmm that sounds like something I would want my kids to listen to.

that's not controversial, just dumb. the only reason i wouldn't want my kids listening to it is so they listen to real black metal instead of poser mall goth junk

 

[philN]

Smoking does pollute your body with toxins and poison.

It causes lung cancer and shortens your lifespan.

There would be a difference between trying to overcome it and just saying oh well.

Makes me want to go see Dave Matthews band so I can get a contact high.

Then I can justify getting high because I didn't intend on smoking weed but just inhaled and exhaled deeply for 3 hours so I could get the contact high.

So were people sinning when they didn't know that smoking was bad?

C.S. Lewis and Charles Spurgeon were both heavy smokers. Do you think God is going to hold that against them?

 

[The Theory]

chill Phil. lets not get into THIS arguement again.

you gangly beeswaxing shodstopper.

 

[philN]

you gangly beeswaxing shodstopper.

That is an impressive insult. I don't know whether to feel honored or ashamed.

 

[antiarte]

Just think of the name.

What do you find in a cradle?

Would it be a baby?

So what filth is there in a cradle with a baby?

What a bunch of sickos to name a band after hinting at child molestation.

Hmm that sounds like something I would want my kids to listen to.

I never thought their name was hinting at child molestation until now that you said it. Or is this like the theory that KoRn is short for kiddie porn? Either way, they're all a joke.

 

[Infernal Freak]

lol...I see so many people saying Marilyn Manson is the most controversial... if you consider just being a unique person and stating things you believe or hate as being controversial, I guess he is. As good of a musician he is, I don't think he's even close to the most controversial. A better word for Him is publicity harlot [and there's nothing wrong with it...it's how he makes money.] The funny thing about it is this...people from generation to generation tend to consider a certain genre [for the most part a harder type of music or anything new for that matter] as being evil or immoral, and from that they're considered controversial. I'd have to agree that Elvis was an abomination in his day, the Beatles in theirs, KISS in theirs, Slayer was and is still considered sort of controversial, etc, etc. It's always what is different, or what is new. Something to think about: the preacher at the church I'm forced to attend has a problem with Skillet, a christian band. He says, "no matter how christian the words sound, the music in itself is too hard and is completely evil sounding..." If any of you know who Skillet is, not the frying pan lol, but if you have heard any of the bands music you'd probably scoff at that statement. Same goes with my grandparents... my sister listens to KJ-52, they never cease to say how Satanic that is. Another fine example: my aunt listens to nothing but the Beatles...which her parents had a horrible problem with...but calls her sons Metallica CD's 'the most dispicable thing she's ever heard...' lol. It's just a never ending chain of stupidity if you ask me. No one understands that from generation to generation, different things begin to rise and become popular, people put forth new images and make different kinds of music. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that it is 'evil.'

Amongst the Flock, I admire your persistence, but...you were very contradictory. First you say that Marilyn Manson isn't controversial because of some reason [I don't wanna expand the effort to look lol ] and then you argue about 'Cradle of Filth' being the most controversial because of their name...you first have to understand that the name doesn't really matter all that much. If you wanted to judge by the name, if you didn't know, Marilyn Manson comes from Marilyn Monroe [the beautiful harlot] and Charles Manson [the intellegent 'serial killer']. Either way, the name doesn't matter but you get the picture

About the most* controversial, again I'll say I don't think there's one...to really choose you'd have to set the standards and establish what is really correct [Christianity, Satanism, Buddhism, whatever] and whatever is against that is controversial. However, we can't do that. I'd have to say though, the whole BM DM, and most of the Metal scene in general is controversial to a lot of people, but so is the rap. It's just anything that people make it out to be. I'll also agree with the statement that music isn't evil unless you make it that way.

It's definitely hard to get out what I'm trying to say, knowing that you can't read my mind Sometimes I forget that lol. Maybe you at least see where I'm coming from.




Talk l8r.
Bless.
-Heather

 

[Chrome]

can't really say, a band or solo artist the whole world could have a problem with, i won't really care, because its not 'controverisal' to me. Besides, plenty of the things people have done to become controversial were already done before my many others, just suddenly someone decided to go very public with it. like MM for example, many of bands before have done what he does, but no one really made their music available for audiences who would call it controversial.
Like the poster above me: you seem to think MM is grand, alot don't. Now, imagine if MM only tried to market music to people who would like him and his music, then he wouldn't be controversial because not everyone would have heard of him. (not putting him down, personally, i can't stand him, but im just making a point)

it all depends on what your into, i myself wouldn't know any controverisal rappers, because i never listen to it...at all...ever. (i have a problem with mainstream stuff and 'good' rap has been suggested to me, but i've never really listened) In summary, its all about who makes it to audiences who would find it controversial.

 

[anathema]

Elvis
KISS
Alice Cooper
Marilyn Manson
Eminem
etc
etc
etc

 

[Z500]

As good of a musician he is

Marylin Manson isn't a musician. He sings and writes the lyrics, but the rest of the band writes the actual music.

Another fine example: my aunt listens to nothing but the Beatles...which her parents had a horrible problem with...but calls her sons Metallica CD's 'the most dispicable thing she's ever heard...' lol

she could be right...does he listen to anything post-black album? when he listens to Garage Inc., does he listen to the 1st disc?

 

[Walks On Water]

Who, in your opinion, is the most controversial group or artist?

The horrorcore artist Mars at least back in the day of SIDS he was.

 

[Virtu]

Tupac Shakur. (2pac)

• February 1971: Afeni, pregnant with 2Pac, has her bail revoked; she's sent to the Women's House of Detention in Greenwich Village.

• June 16, 1971: Shortly after Afeni is acquitted on bombing charges, Tupac Amaru Shakur is born in New York. Tupac Amaru are Incan words meaning "shining serpent." Shakur is Arabic for Thankful to God.

• June 1986: Shakur's family moves to Baltimore. 2Pac writes his first rap.

• September 1986: 2Pac enrolls at the Baltimore School for the Arts, where he studies ballet and acting.

• June 1988: 2Pac and his family move to Marin City, California "Leaving that school affected me so much," he said later. "I see that as the point where I got off track." Shortly after, 2Pac moves in with a neighbor and begins selling drugs.

• August 1988: Mutulu Shakur, 2Pac's stepfather, is sentenced to sixty years in prison for his involvement in a 1981 armored car robbery.

• November 12, 1991: 2Pacaplypse Now is released. Shortly thereafter, 2Pac files a $10 million lawsuit against the Oakland police for alleged brutality following an arrest for jaywalking.

• April 11, 19992: Ronald Ray Howard, 19, shoots a Texas trooper. Howard's attorney claims 2Pacalypse Now, which was in his client's tape deck, incited him to kill.

• September 22, 1992: 2Pac is denounced by Vice President Dan Quayle, who says 2Pacalypse Now "has no place in our society".

• March 13, 1993: 2Pac fights with a limo driver in Hollywood who accuses him of using drugs in the car. 2Pac is arrested, but the charges are dropped.

• April 5, 1993: In Lansing Michigan, 2Pac is arrested for taking a swing at a local rapper with a baseball bat during a concert. He's sentenced to 10 days in jail.

• October 31, 1993: 2Pac is arrested for allegedly shooting two off-duty Atlanta police officers whom he says were harassing a black motorist. Charges are eventually dropped.

• November 18, 1993: A 19-year-old woman, whom 2Pac picked up 4 days earlier in a New York nightclub, is allegedly sodomized and sexually abused by the rapper and 3 of his friends.

• December 1993: Columbia Pictures forces John Singleton to drop 2Pac from the cast of his upcoming film, Higher Learning.

• March 10, 1994: 2Pac is sentenced to fifteen days in a Los Angeles jail for punching out director Allen Hughes. Hughes and his brother, Albert, had dropped 2Pac from their film Menace II Society.

• September 7, 1994: Two Milwaukee teens murder a police officer and cite 2Pac's "Souljah's Story" as their inspiration.

• November 30 1994: While on trial for sex and weapons charges, 2Pac is shot five times and robbed of $40,000 worth of jewelry in the lobby of a Times Square recording studio. 2Pac checks himself out of the hospital less than three hours after surgery. The case remains unsolved.

• December 1, 1994: 2Pac is acquitted of sodomy and weapons charges but is found guilty of sexual abuse.

• February 14, 1995: 2Pac is sentenced to up to four and a half years in a maximum-security prison. He immediately begins serving his time in New York's Riker's Island penitentiary.

• April 1, 1995: While he's incarcerated, 2Pac's third album, Me Against the World, debuts at No. 1 on Billboard's pop chart. Featuring the touching single "Dear Mama," the album goes double platinum in 7 months.

• April 1995: In a Vibe magazine interview conducted in jail, 2Pac renounces the "thug life" and commits himself to positive works. He also implicates Biggie Smalls, Puffy Combs, Andre Harrell, and his close friend Stretch, along with others in the recording studio ambush. Biggie, Puffy and Harrell tell Vibe magazine they had no connection to 2Pac's shooting.

• October 1995: Death Row Records CEO Suge Knight posts $1.4 million bond to release 2Pac. 2Pac immediately flies to LA, signs with Death Row and begins recording All Eyez on Me.

• November 30, 1995: Exactly one year after 2Pac's shooting, Randy "Stretch" Walker (whom Pac implicated in his ambush) is murdered execution style in Queens.

• February 1996: In Vibe, 2Pac suggests he's been sleeping with Biggie's wife, Faith Evans. She denies it.

• February 13, 1996: 2Pac's Death Row debut, All Eyez on Me is released. It is rap's first double CD.

• March 29, 1996: Words are exchanged and a gun is pulled when Death Row and Bad Boy employees face off after the Soul Train awards in Los Angeles.

• April 25, 1996: All Eyez on Me goes quintuple platinum.

• June 4, 1996: Death Row releases 2Pac's "Hit 'Em Up," a brutal diatribe against Biggie, Bad Boy, Mobb Deep, and others.

• September 4, 1996: 2Pac returns to New York for the MTV Music Awards and gets into a scuffle.

• September 7, 1996: Shakur leaves the Mike Tyson/Bruce Seldon fight in Las Vegas and gets into Marion “Suge” Knight's car. While riding in the passenger side of Knight's car, Shakur is shot four times in the chest by an assailant in a white Cadillac. Knight, who has connections with the Bloods, escapes with a minor injury. Shakur is rushed to University Medical Center and undergoes surgery, which includes the removal of his right lung.

• September 11, 1996: A Compton man whom police claim to be associated with the LA Crips is shot to death while sitting in his car. This is the first in a series of gang-related murders. Police begin investigating possible connections to 2Pac's shooting.

Friday, September 13 1996: After six days in critical condition, 2Pac Shakur is pronounced dead at 4:03 pm. His body is later cremated. He was 25 years old.


Tupac Shakur has since sold over 38 million albums.



-James C. (Virtu)

 

[MadeYouLook]

most of the rappers of course and some of the punk rock groups. you can't really pick one.

 

[MetalBlade]

heh thats exactly what I thought of when I first saw the thread....

That got quite a few people's panties in a bunch

lol. that is what I thought this thread was about to. I was going to say Milli Vanilli!!!

 

[HolyPlace]

Micheal Jackson..think of all thats happened with him latley

Relient K is not really bad, Green Day is pretty controverisa

 

[simply intolerable]

hmmm the beatles sparked up some controversy with the whole, we're bigger then Jesus thing.

and from a christian prospective i'd have to say crass. although i like alot of crass's music i almost threw up after i sat through reality asylum.

other then taht i dont find many other things very controvesial

 

[Infernal Freak]

Marylin Manson isn't a musician. He sings and writes the lyrics, but the rest of the band writes the actual music.


she could be right...does he listen to anything post-black album? when he listens to Garage Inc., does he listen to the 1st disc?
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Hmm...maybe you wouldn't consider him a musician but I do, mainly because he is a vocalist...and obviously that's making music...you may not think it's the best, but...it's still singing...and that's music. Also...they may be dispicable, and I do think that has came out of her mouth much, but she mainly referred to it as being horrible and evil and not even worth listening to. [Which, lol, it could definitely not be worth listening to...and to some people is obviously not the greatest...but that doesn't make it evil.] BTW...I have no idea what albums he listens to, lol, I just know that she went on and on for years about his stupid obsession...

I also know that many people aren't into Marilyn Manson, as I obviously am.... [J/K about the smiley, lol...] But..yeah, that's obviously well known

If you didn't understand though, it seems that anything new...or against a rather large religious group, such as christianity, is considered controversial. Before it was AC-DC or KISS, then Slayer, now Marilyn Manson [which...believe me...the first assemblies of god churches are STRONGLY against him...I have to attend one every sunday...heh...my parents went through heck with the preacher when he found out I'm a fan...lol....], Eminem, whatever... My point is that there's always going to be something someone doesn't like and they;'re going to get riled up about it...give much publicity...and make them the 'most controversial figure of their time.'

-Heather