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Mormon view of Creation?

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Aduro Amnis

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Several Mormons have told me that the claimed Book of Enoch explains Creation in more detail.

Which Creation Story does the Book of Enoch explain, Gensis 1 or Gensis 2-3?

Also, a Mormon once told me that the reason that reason that the Earth dates to be 4.66 billion years old is because the parts it was made of are that age.

Is this the general Mormon view of Creation?
 

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Aduro Amnis said:
Also, a Mormon once told me that the reason that reason that the Earth dates to be 4.66 billion years old is because the parts it was made of are that age.

I do not know if that perception jives.

We believe in the creation, verses atheistic evolution, and we do not promote the belief in 'young earth creation'. After that, I do not think there is an 'official position' on the specifics.
 
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arizona_sunshine said:
I do not know if that perception jives.

We believe in the creation, verses atheistic evolution, and we do not promote the belief in 'young earth creation'. After that, I do not think there is an 'official position' on the specifics.
You don't know your own churches doctrine?


This is just a small tid bit. Here is the whole big ship.

My grandmother on my father's side is a Mormon, when she found out from her pastor that the LDS taught this she nearly had a heart attack.
 
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fatboys said:
We believe that God created the earth. He did so in six creative periods. How long those creative periods took we have not idea. We do know that when on creative perioded ended they called that a day.
Yes, but do you believe that God lives on a distant planet birthing babies (spiritual ones) with his wife?

Oh, on another note and off topic. The words "Day" and "night" are a mistranslation. The actual words were something more like, "Chaos" and "order". :topic:
 
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FB: What was in Chaos?
 
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fatboys said:
FB: What was in Chaos?
Genesis 1:18 "God called the expanse heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day"

Morning and evening were never in the OT. It would have said "God called the expanse heaven. And there was chaos and there was order"

It is a mistranslation.
 
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fatboys said:
FB: Well I believe in Evolution. Perhaps not your usual evolutionist. I believe in the eternal evolution.
Doesn't surprise me. I would think all mormons would believe in evolution.

Fits in with the idea of eternal progression,
 
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Wrigley said:
Doesn't surprise me. I would think all mormons would believe in evolution.

Fits in with the idea of eternal progression,

Actually, very few "believe" in Evolution.

At the risk of starting a sub-thread. I don't think it is possible to "believe" in Evolution. Evolution is a set of scientific theories that are not subject to faith concepts. They stand and fall on their evidences. Thus there is no such thing as a Science vs Religion argument when it comes to evolution, it is a Science vs Science argument.
 
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Swart said:
Actually, very few "believe" in Evolution.
That surprises me. I guess I'll have to look into that. Don't be upset if I don't take your word for it.

At the risk of starting a sub-thread. I don't think it is possible to "believe" in Evolution. Evolution is a set of scientific theories that are not subject to faith concepts.
Would be nice it that were true. I've seen evolution looked at as religious dogma by those who believe it.
 
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Acolyte said:
You don't know your own churches doctrine?



This is just a small tid bit. Here is the whole big ship.

Geee. You mean we need to go to an anti-mormon website so we can find out what we *really* believe.

This is such a mantra with COTMC. Straw-man syndrome.

Acolyte said:
My grandmother on my father's side is a Mormon, when she found out from her pastor that the LDS taught this she nearly had a heart attack.

You mean she went through HER ENTIRE LIFE, without KNOWING WHAT SHE BELIEVED?

Or perhaps her beliefs were misrepresented to her?
 
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>>>Are any of you Theistic Evolutionists?<<<

I've got no problem with evolution if that's what you mean. My view is simply I don't see why G-d couldn't use it (or more acurately something like it). Truthfully I couldn't figure out what they big deal was in biology class last year when we were learning about it.

Seeing that I don't really have a problem with evolution and I lean more towards it...yeah I guess you could say that I am a Theistic Evolutionist. Theistic evolutionist says hi!

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That surprises me. I guess I'll have to look into that. Don't be upset if I don't take your word for it.<<<

I second Fatboy on the point that most mormons don't believe in evolution.You should have heard my mother when she heard I didn't have a problem with evolution. Or my Semenary teacher last year who had a lesson about (*cough*against*cough*) evolution, or as he put it, some scientific theories. Or others who've had talks/discussions with others about "evilution." It's not a popular view at all to say the least. Not to say there aren't people who do. A number of my friends (and not the net type mind you) do. The majority doesn't though.


On a side note. Everyone have a good Easter? Mine wasn't too bad. The weather went icky on Sunday though.
 
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Wrigley said:
That surprises me. I guess I'll have to look into that. Don't be upset if I don't take your word for it.

No problem! Be careful with your sample size though.

Wrigley said:
Would be nice it that were true. I've seen evolution looked at as religious dogma by those who believe it.

This is the subject of a project I'm working on entitled "The New Inquisition". It is the primary reason I have started posting to this forum. Once I get a good enough feel for things here, I'll post the treatise to see what response I get.
 
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Acolyte said:
You don't know your own churches doctrine?



This is just a small tid bit. Here is the whole big ship.

My grandmother on my father's side is a Mormon, when she found out from her pastor that the LDS taught this she nearly had a heart attack.

next time you feel the need to do that, go to the bathroom. Helps if you understand LDS doctrine before you start trying to be an expert on it.

Now about this thread in general. Maybe they should have called it "hey, why don't we talk about something that probably most mormons and main streams Christians actually think alike about."

I've gone to college till it hurts, but beyond some adaptation and mixing of breeds, evolution as I understand it seems like a pretty foolish notion which has nil evidence for its proof on the other hand I have not met anyone who completely understands all of the processes used in creation.
 
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