More Republican Partisanship

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"According to court documents, federal prosecutors working on behalf of Attorney General Eric Holder and the Department of Justice misled U.S. District Court Judge Richard Berman in the case against conservative filmmaker and author Dinesh D’Souza during their pursuit of 10-to-16 months of prison time for a federal felony charge.

"In a reply sentencing memo submitted to the Court on behalf of D'Souza last week, his counsel argues federal prosecutors excluded and misrepresented the facts of “similar” cases in the Government's sentencing proposal to Judge Berman, leaving out crucial facts key to fair and equal sentencing for D’Souza compared to other cases. The prosecution has a duty to present comparable cases and crimes when arguing for a prison sentence. In their presentation of “similar” cases to the Judge for consideration during his deliberation, the prosecution ignored all truly similar cases without prison time but did present cases that included prison time without a full set of facts to justify sentencing.

“The Government, in this case, has chosen to consciously omit from its submission critical facts from most of the cases they cite which make it clear that those cases are substantially distinguishable from the facts in D’Souza’s prosecution,” the memo states. "
 
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From the article...

"According to court documents, federal prosecutors working on behalf of Attorney General Eric Holder and the Department of Justice misled U.S. District Court Judge Richard Berman in the case against conservative filmmaker and author Dinesh D’Souza during their pursuit of 10-to-16 months of prison time for a federal felony charge.

"In a reply sentencing memo submitted to the Court on behalf of D'Souza last week, his counsel argues federal prosecutors excluded and misrepresented the facts of “similar” cases in the Government's sentencing proposal to Judge Berman, leaving out crucial facts key to fair and equal sentencing for D’Souza compared to other cases. The prosecution has a duty to present comparable cases and crimes when arguing for a prison sentence. In their presentation of “similar” cases to the Judge for consideration during his deliberation, the prosecution ignored all truly similar cases without prison time but did present cases that included prison time without a full set of facts to justify sentencing.

“The Government, in this case, has chosen to consciously omit from its submission critical facts from most of the cases they cite which make it clear that those cases are substantially distinguishable from the facts in D’Souza’s prosecution,” the memo states. "

He diidn't receive any jail time, and he pled guilty to the charges:

Dinesh D’Souza Pleads Guilty in Manhattan Federal Court to Campaign Finance Fraud — FBI
 
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It's extremely troubling that the prosecution would willfully ommit such information from the judge. They didn't do their job, if the article is truthful, and they failed to do their job because it could have resulted in a more lenient sentence for the accused. That seems at least equally as "partisan".
 
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It's extremely troubling that the prosecution would willfully ommit such information from the judge. They didn't do their job, if the article is truthful, and they failed to do their job because it could have resulted in a more lenient sentence for the accused. That seems at least equally as "partisan".
Seeing that he didn't get any jail time it appears that the judge may have done his own homework or knew what the prosecution was doing and ignored it.

But there does appear to be partisanship by the prosecution. Maybe they were trying to make him an example.
 
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So that makes what Holder did alright? Good to know.

Did you even bother to read your own post, and what the argument is?

'The prosecution ignored all truly similar cases without prison time but did present cases that included prison time without a full set of facts to justify sentencing."

Because the prosecution did not present other cases where probation was given means there was no fair presentation? It is not the job of the prosecution to do so, it is the job of the defense to do so.

Dinesh D’Souza Sentenced in Manhattan Federal Court to Five Years of Probation for Campaign Finance Fraud
 
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Did you even bother to read your own post, and what the argument is?
Yes, I did. Perhaps you missed this part...again.

"In a reply sentencing memo submitted to the Court on behalf of D'Souza last week, his counsel argues federal prosecutors excluded and misrepresented the facts of “similar” cases in the Government's sentencing proposal to Judge Berman, leaving out crucial facts key to fair and equal sentencing for D’Souza compared to other cases."

:wave:
 
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Yes, I did. Perhaps you missed this part...again.

"In a reply sentencing memo submitted to the Court on behalf of D'Souza last week, his counsel argues federal prosecutors excluded and misrepresented the facts of “similar” cases in the Government's sentencing proposal to Judge Berman, leaving out crucial facts key to fair and equal sentencing for D’Souza compared to other cases."

:wave:

Evidently you have never engaged in a prosecution, or been to a court proceeding. As I said earlier, it is not the job of the prosecutor to put up an argument for the defense. It is up to the defense attorney to present cases that oppose the argument of the prosecutor. Since I represented my self in court for 16 years (County, State Appeals Court, and Federal Court) I am somewhat familiar with the process. The attorney for Trump on this pardon is exploiting the ignorance of the general public, nothing more.
 
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Evidently you have never engaged in a prosecution, or been to a court proceeding. As I said earlier, it is not the job of the prosecutor to put up an argument for the defense. It is up to the defense attorney to present cases that oppose the argument of the prosecutor. Since I represented my self in court for 16 years (County, State Appeals Court, and Federal Court) I am somewhat familiar with the process. The attorney for Trump on this pardon is exploiting the ignorance of the general public, nothing more.
So it was normal for you to "exclude and misrepresent facts" in your career? Good to know.

(glad my bible doesn't exclude Exodus 20:16)
 
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Again with the ignorance of the mindless right wing. Do you honestly think that the defense attorney is going to present sentencing guidelines that show his client could be sentenced to jail for a period of time? There is no "exclusion or misrepresentation" of facts. It is the DUTY of the attorney to present a case most favorable to his client. Is that so hard for you to understand?

Then too, you gladly exclude Exodus 18: 21 as you ignore Trumps constant exclusion of Exodus 20: 16.
Let's try this again...

""In a reply sentencing memo submitted to the Court on behalf of D'Souza last week, his counsel argues federal prosecutors excluded and misrepresented the facts of “similar” cases in the Government's sentencing proposal to Judge Berman, leaving out crucial facts key to fair and equal sentencing for D’Souza compared to other cases."
 
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From the article (also quoted in post #2):

"In a reply sentencing memo submitted to the Court on behalf of D'Souza last week, his counsel argues federal prosecutors excluded and misrepresented the facts of “similar” cases in the Government's sentencing proposal to Judge Berman, leaving out crucial facts key to fair and equal sentencing for D’Souza compared to other cases. The prosecution has a duty to present comparable cases and crimes when arguing for a prison sentence. In their presentation of “similar” cases to the Judge for consideration during his deliberation, the prosecution ignored all truly similar cases without prison time but did present cases that included prison time without a full set of facts to justify sentencing."

I understand how hard it is for (staff edit ) to recognize reality, however, when one is presenting case to the Court the prosecutor argues for a prison term (unless a deal has been made for other sentencing) and in support of that position presents to the Court cases where the criminal was given a prison sentence. Following that presentation (called a "closing argument") the defense is given the opportunity to present a rebuttal, and in support of that position presents to the Court cases where the criminal was given a lesser sentence, or probation.

Contrary to the argument of D'Souza's attorney, there is no obligation on the part of the prosecutor to offer a sentencing guideline that is contrary to the position of the prosecution. Only that which is pertinent to the case presented by the prosecutor.

In other words, D'SDouza's attorney lied, and you fell for the lie which is nothing unusual for the Trumpkin mentality.

Criminal Justice Standards for the Prosecution Function

Standard 3-7.3 Information Relevant to Sentencing

(a) The prosecutor should assist the court in obtaining complete and accurate information for use in sentencing, and should cooperate fully with the court’s and staff’s presentence investigations. The prosecutor should provide any information that the prosecution believes is relevant to the sentencing to the court and to defense counsel. A record of such information provided to the court and counsel should be made, so that it may be reviewed later if necessary. If material incompleteness or inaccuracy in a presentence report comes to the prosecutor's attention, the prosecutor should take steps to present the complete and correct information to the court and defense counsel.

(Notice the word "PRESENTENCE")

(b) The prosecutor should disclose to the defense and to the court, at or before the sentencing proceeding, all information that tends to mitigate the sentence and is known to the prosecutor, unless the prosecutor is relieved of this responsibility by a court order.

(c) Prior to sentencing, the prosecutor should disclose to the defense any evidence or information it provides, whether by document or orally, to the court or presentence investigator in aid of sentencing, unless contrary to law or rule in the jurisdiction or a protective order has been sought.

(Again, take note of the words "BEFORE THE SENTENCING PROCEEDING" and "PRESENTENCE". Also take note of the use of the word "SHOULD", not "SHALL")

Now, do you want to take on the duties of a defense attorney?
 
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