More lies and slander against Darwin.

[USincognito]

Nothing but lies and slander.

The American Minute: Lincoln vs. Darwin – and the value of human life | For God's Glory Alone Ministries
>> Abraham Lincoln and Charles Darwin were born on the exact same day, FEBRUARY 12, 1809, but their lives had opposite effects.

Lincoln is best known for issuing the Emancipation Proclamation and freeing millions of slaves, claiming all men are created equal, as he stated in his Gettysburg Address, November 19, 1863:”Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.”

Darwin’s theory of evolution claims men were not created, instead they evolved, and men are not equal, as some are more evolved than others.

 

[Saucy]

Darwin's the liar.

 

[Shemjaza]

Darwin's the liar.

Feel free to actually substantiate that.

He was certainly wrong on occasion, but I think he justified most of his theories and ideas from the evidence he had available.

 

[Saucy]

We were created, so everything he said after that is a lie.

 

[Speedwell]

It is remarkable that a person who disagrees with a creationist is never just wrong, but must be a liar or part of an atheistic conspiracy or something equally lurid and improbable.

 

[Occams Barber]

It is remarkable that a person who disagrees with a creationist is never just wrong, but must be a liar or part of an atheistic conspiracy or something equally lurid and improbable.

Shuddup

You know you're evil

Just admit it and we can all get back to plotting stuff

OB

 

[USincognito]

Darwin's the liar.

Nice claim. Got any evidence to support it? Because there's 170 years worth of evidence saying he was right.

 

[USincognito]

We were created, so everything he said after that is a lie.

This is circular reasoning. You need to actually address evolution and show it to be a "lie" (whatever that's supposed to mean).

 

[USincognito]

It is remarkable that a person who disagrees with a creationist is never just wrong, but must be a liar or part of an atheistic conspiracy or something equally lurid and improbable.

To be fair I've noticed a strong "I know you are, but what am I" pattern among Creationists and my use of the word "lies" in the OP was bound to trigger that.

 

[Go Braves]

Lol, the blog site with the ignorant junk about Darwin was too lazy to even find their own images so they took one from Newsweek. Figures.

 

[USincognito]

Alright. I'll get the ball rolling.

>> and men are not equal, as some are more evolved than others. <<

This is a lie. Darwin was very much a product of his time and felt some people's were less civilized than others, but all humans are equally evolved from our common ancestor.

>> Darwin’s Origin of Species was read and reread by Karl Marx, who used ‘survival of the fittest’ to formulate the ‘dialectical conflict’, where labor and community organizers would create social chaos enabling communist dictators to usurp power. <<

There is nothing in this sentence that is factual other Marx and Engles reading Origin. Dialectic was formulated by Hagel, not Marx and I love how Stambaugh throws "community organizers" into this as a thinly veiled slam against President Obama.

>> Karl Marx dedicated his book, Das Kapital, to Darwin, inscribing that he was a “sincere admirer” in Darwin’s personal copy. <<

Yeah, as if Darwin bought a copy and then went to see Marx so the latter would sign his "personal copy".

>> Darwin also influenced Engels, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, and others whose totalitarian regimes killed and enslaved millions. <<

Engels was apparently a fan, but the rest of this list is well poisoning and lies. Hitler rejected Darwin. Stalin rejected Darwin for Lysenko. The only "connection" I can find between Mao and Pol Pot are on Creationist propaganda sites.

 

[Go Braves]

Alright. I'll get the ball rolling.

>> and men are not equal, as some are more evolved than others. <<

This is a lie. Darwin was very much a product of his time and felt some people's were less civilized than others, but all humans are equally evolved from our common ancestor.

>> Darwin’s Origin of Species was read and reread by Karl Marx, who used ‘survival of the fittest’ to formulate the ‘dialectical conflict’, where labor and community organizers would create social chaos enabling communist dictators to usurp power. <<

There is nothing in this sentence that is factual other Marx and Engles reading Origin. Dialectic was formulated by Hagel, not Marx and I love how Stambaugh throws "community organizers" into this as a thinly veiled slam against President Obama.

>> Karl Marx dedicated his book, Das Kapital, to Darwin, inscribing that he was a “sincere admirer” in Darwin’s personal copy. <<

Yeah, as if Darwin bought a copy and then went to see Marx so the latter would sign his "personal copy".

>> Darwin also influenced Engels, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, and others whose totalitarian regimes killed and enslaved millions. <<

Engels was apparently a fan, but the rest of this list is well poisoning and lies. Hitler rejected Darwin. Stalin rejected Darwin for Lysenko. The only "connection" I can find between Mao and Pol Pot are on Creationist propaganda sites.

Thanks for the summary so the rest of us are spared that. Lol, it takes a thinly veiled potshot at Obama? I don't think even Trump is a creationist. Well then again, I wouldn't be surprised if he said he believed whatever his base wants him to.

 

[Shemjaza]

We were created, so everything he said after that is a lie.

If you mean the modern human form, then the evidence points against that.

If you mean that the universe was created, and humanity is part of God's plan, then Darwin would have agreed with you at point that he wrote the Origin of Species. (He become agnostic later in life for non scientific reasons, IIRC).

 

[Skreeper]

We were created, so everything he said after that is a lie.

We evolved, so everything you said above is false.

See how easy that is?

 

[AnotherAtheist]

We were created, so everything he said after that is a lie.

Well, either Darwin was lying, or you are.

Darwin's claims have been checked and rechecked by thousands of scientists, supported by multiple independent lines of evidence, and are now accepted by the overwhelming majority of those who study biology.

Do you have any evidence that you are not lying?

 

[Go Braves]

Well, either Darwin was lying, or you are.

Darwin's claims have been checked and rechecked by thousands of scientists, supported by multiple independent lines of evidence, and are now accepted by the overwhelming majority of those who study biology.

Do you have any evidence that you are not lying?

I don't think the folks who say that Darwin was lying are liars, I think they've been taught science & theology poorly.

 

[AnotherAtheist]

I don't think the folks who say that Darwin was lying are liars, I think they've been taught science & theology poorly.

In general, I agree, but in my post I was addressing one poster in particular. The poster accused Darwin of lying, and I was reflecting his/her own claim back on him/her.

They aren't just saying that Darwin was wrong. They went further and said that he is a liar. Hence, I think it makes a point to reflect that strength of claim back on themselves.