more ice in Antarctica

[prosperity4all]

more ice in Antarctica







is melting faster than ever


say Scientists




World’s Ice Is Melting Faster Than Ever, Scientists Say.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/55812735

World’s Ice Is Melting 65 Percent Faster Than in 1990s


more ice in Greenland

is melting faster than at any time in past 12,000 years

Greenland's ice melting faster than at any time in past 12,000 years

more ice in Alaskan glaciers

melting 100 times faster than previously thought

Alaskan glaciers melting 100 times faster than previously thought









shouldn't we drain the oceans now?

by 1 centimeters per year

using solar powered desalination of seawater

then use solar power to pump

the freshwater in land where it is needed?

because 97 percent of the worlds water is salty ocean

water and not suitable for drinking.

ocean water volume is roughly 326 million cubic miles

(1.332 billion cubic kilometers),

according to a recent study from

the U.S. Geological Survey.

71 percent of Earth is covered in salty water.





2 billion people lack safe drinking water at home, more than twice as many lack safe sanitation

2 billion people lack safe drinking water at home



money

2 billion potential customers just waiting for us to supply them clean water

even if we charge $1 per year that would be $2 billion per year

if we charge $10 per year that would be $20 billion per year

if we charge $1 per week that would be $100 billion per year

$ 6 trillion



salt

we have to mine for a quarter of a billion tons of salt each year that we currently use.






pipeline

The world's longest pipeline is 2353 miles.

the Interprovincial Pipe Line Inc. installation,

which spans the North American continent from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada through Chicago to Montreal:

a distance of 3787km.





solar power

Approximately 12000 TW (terrawatts) of energy

reaches the Earth from the Sun.

That is 1200000000000000 joules per minute

More energy reaches the earth from the sun in one day

than the whole world uses in one year.

Solar is now cheapest electricity in history says IEA




water storage

water can be stored under the land in vast aquifers as deep as 30,000 feet and as wide 174,000 square-mile .

What is Groundwater? | Live Science

aquifers underground can hold volume of water 100 times greater then amount that can be held on the surface of the land.

the aquifers underneath the deserts were last filled with water over 5,000 years ago.









Deserts

Seen from space, the majority of the Earth's surface is covered by

oceans – that makes up 71% of the surface of the Earth,

with the remaining 29% for land.

what percentage of the Earth's land surface is desert?

Deserts actually make up 33%



Planting Trillions of Trees will Cancel Out Decades of CO2 Emission say Scientists

president says "we will plant Trillions of Trees now" because




fertilizer

human produce 200 million tons of sewage every year

we could make this in to fertilizer and use it to turn the deserts

in to rich agricultural land and wildlife habitats

 

[Aussie Pete]

more ice in Antarctica







is melting faster than ever


say Scientists




World’s Ice Is Melting Faster Than Ever, Scientists Say.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/55812735

World’s Ice Is Melting 65 Percent Faster Than in 1990s


more ice in Greenland

is melting faster than at any time in past 12,000 years

Greenland's ice melting faster than at any time in past 12,000 years

more ice in Alaskan glaciers

melting 100 times faster than previously thought

Alaskan glaciers melting 100 times faster than previously thought









shouldn't we drain the oceans now?

by 1 centimeters per year

using solar powered desalination of seawater

then use solar power to pump

the freshwater in land where it is needed?

because 97 percent of the worlds water is salty ocean

water and not suitable for drinking.

ocean water volume is roughly 326 million cubic miles

(1.332 billion cubic kilometers),

according to a recent study from

the U.S. Geological Survey.

71 percent of Earth is covered in salty water.





2 billion people lack safe drinking water at home, more than twice as many lack safe sanitation

2 billion people lack safe drinking water at home



money

2 billion potential customers just waiting for us to supply them clean water

even if we charge $1 per year that would be $2 billion per year

if we charge $10 per year that would be $20 billion per year

if we charge $1 per week that would be $100 billion per year

$ 6 trillion



salt

we have to mine for a quarter of a billion tons of salt each year that we currently use.






pipeline

The world's longest pipeline is 2353 miles.

the Interprovincial Pipe Line Inc. installation,

which spans the North American continent from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada through Chicago to Montreal:

a distance of 3787km.





solar power

Approximately 12000 TW (terrawatts) of energy

reaches the Earth from the Sun.

That is 1200000000000000 joules per minute

More energy reaches the earth from the sun in one day

than the whole world uses in one year.






water storage

water can be stored under the land in vast aquifers as deep as 30,000 feet and as wide 174,000 square-mile .

What is Groundwater? | Live Science

aquifers underground can hold volume of water 100 times greater then amount that can be held on the surface of the land.

the aquifers underneath the deserts were last filled with water over 5,000 years ago.









Deserts

Seen from space, the majority of the Earth's surface is covered by

oceans – that makes up 71% of the surface of the Earth,

with the remaining 29% for land.

what percentage of the Earth's land surface is desert?

Deserts actually make up 33%



Planting Trillions of Trees will Cancel Out Decades of CO2 Emission say Scientists


fertilizer

human produce 200 million tons of sewage every year

we could make this in to fertilizer and use it to turn the deserts

in to rich agricultural land and wildlife habitats

Quite simple. Cost. The resources required to make a real difference are enormous. How much does a tree cost? Not that much. Transport to get it to where it will help? Probably much more. Labour to plant it? Water to keep it alive until it is established?

Australia is a dry and hot place except for a coastal strip. Tree plantations are not unusual, but they can be hard work. You can't just plant a tree and walk away, at least in the initial stages. A number of plantation failures here have shown that to be true.

 

[dqhall]

more ice in Antarctica







is melting faster than ever


say Scientists




World’s Ice Is Melting Faster Than Ever, Scientists Say.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/55812735

World’s Ice Is Melting 65 Percent Faster Than in 1990s


more ice in Greenland

is melting faster than at any time in past 12,000 years

Greenland's ice melting faster than at any time in past 12,000 years

more ice in Alaskan glaciers

melting 100 times faster than previously thought

Alaskan glaciers melting 100 times faster than previously thought









shouldn't we drain the oceans now?

by 1 centimeters per year

using solar powered desalination of seawater

then use solar power to pump

the freshwater in land where it is needed?

because 97 percent of the worlds water is salty ocean

water and not suitable for drinking.

ocean water volume is roughly 326 million cubic miles

(1.332 billion cubic kilometers),

according to a recent study from

the U.S. Geological Survey.

71 percent of Earth is covered in salty water.





2 billion people lack safe drinking water at home, more than twice as many lack safe sanitation

2 billion people lack safe drinking water at home



money

2 billion potential customers just waiting for us to supply them clean water

even if we charge $1 per year that would be $2 billion per year

if we charge $10 per year that would be $20 billion per year

if we charge $1 per week that would be $100 billion per year

$ 6 trillion



salt

we have to mine for a quarter of a billion tons of salt each year that we currently use.






pipeline

The world's longest pipeline is 2353 miles.

the Interprovincial Pipe Line Inc. installation,

which spans the North American continent from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada through Chicago to Montreal:

a distance of 3787km.





solar power

Approximately 12000 TW (terrawatts) of energy

reaches the Earth from the Sun.

That is 1200000000000000 joules per minute

More energy reaches the earth from the sun in one day

than the whole world uses in one year.






water storage

water can be stored under the land in vast aquifers as deep as 30,000 feet and as wide 174,000 square-mile .

What is Groundwater? | Live Science

aquifers underground can hold volume of water 100 times greater then amount that can be held on the surface of the land.

the aquifers underneath the deserts were last filled with water over 5,000 years ago.









Deserts

Seen from space, the majority of the Earth's surface is covered by

oceans – that makes up 71% of the surface of the Earth,

with the remaining 29% for land.

what percentage of the Earth's land surface is desert?

Deserts actually make up 33%



Planting Trillions of Trees will Cancel Out Decades of CO2 Emission say Scientists


fertilizer

human produce 200 million tons of sewage every year

we could make this in to fertilizer and use it to turn the deserts

in to rich agricultural land and wildlife habitats

Cape Coral, FL uses reverse osmosis to purify brackish water for household use. This brackish water is less salty than sea water. They get $90/mo water and sewer bills. If you flood the interior with water, you will get a huge water bill.

 

[Desk trauma]

Almost the perfect Gattica post but missing a swipe at the UK and something about Israel positive or paranoid anti Semitic depending...

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Quite simple. Cost. The resources required to make a real difference are enormous. How much does a tree cost? Not that much. Transport to get it to where it will help? Probably much more. Labour to plant it? Water to keep it alive until it is established?

Australia is a dry and hot place except for a coastal strip. Tree plantations are not unusual, but they can be hard work. You can't just plant a tree and walk away, at least in the initial stages. A number of plantation failures here have shown that to be true.

Conifers do pretty well without much attention. They also extract moisture from the air as well as from the ground. Red (Norway) pine plantations are common where I live. Once planted they are on their own. They are fast growing and so can potentially sequester a lot of carbon fairly quickly. And while the thinnings are used for making paper the larger trees are often used in log home construction.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

The earth has too many people, with entirely too wasteful and destructive lifestyles.

 

[Servus]

Apparently the big decrease in emissions from vehicles and airplanes, due to Covid shutdowns and restrictions hasn't helped any.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

Apparently the big decrease in emissions from vehicles and airplanes, due to Covid shutdowns and restrictions hasn't helped any.

Like a diet, you don’t see the results of your new lifestyle right away it takes time for those changes to start to be noticed. The ice melting is still from the previous decades of human habits. Also, in order for the effects of the diet to be maintained, the diet has to be maintained. If we go back to our normal ways after COVID, you’ll notice almost no effect from this past year.

 

[durangodawood]

Apparently the big decrease in emissions from vehicles and airplanes, due to Covid shutdowns and restrictions hasn't helped any.

People are cognitively biased against things that are really big, are really small, are really far away, or take a long time.

 

[Sparagmos]

Cape Coral, FL uses reverse osmosis to purify brackish water for household use. This brackish water is less salty than sea water. They get $90/mo water and sewer bills. If you flood the interior with water, you will get a huge water bill.

It’s a given that counteracting the effects of catastrophic climate change will be expensive. That’s lower than my water bill.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Like a diet, you don’t see the results of your new lifestyle right away it takes time for those changes to start to be noticed. The ice melting is still from the previous decades of human habits. Also, in order for the effects of the diet to be maintained, the diet has to be maintained. If we go back to our normal ways after COVID, you’ll notice almost no effect from this past year.

True. Even as COVID cases decrease deaths are increasing.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

People are cognitively biased against things that are really big, are really small, are really far away, or take a long time.

People don't think much outside of themselves. Their life spins so tightly around their head that they can't see past it.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

True. Even as COVID cases decrease deaths are increasing.

True. We continue to pay for our actions from earlier, even if we have changed our ways for the better today.

 

[Direct Driver]

Antarctic and arctic ice are cyclical. Remember Al Gore's prediction about no more Arctic ice. That was supposed to happen decades ago. It didn't.

This stuff is all cyclical. The climate changes. It always has. There used to be forest in the Sahara, and jungle in Siberia. And glaciers covered over half the US. Frankly, it looks like the glaciers are coming back right now.

Here is a youtube playlist on the subject that is backed by so much science it gets mind numbing after a while:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL25om63gd1VoP7m5VLuVcLOwKh-FB7Rxp

It is important to note that all human activity produces CO2 and it is a necessary element for life to exist. It can be deadly in the same way water, necessary for life, can drown you. But the whole AGW/climate change thingee was fabricated as a tool to, once people are convinced it's real, cause them to give their rulers the power to control any aspect of our life that produces CO2.

That means EVERYTHING.

And that's the goal. Don't fall for it. Educate yourself. Trust the science, not the fake science. Don't trust politicians and 17 year old girls.

 

[Direct Driver]

The earth has too many people, with entirely too wasteful and destructive lifestyles.

I don't think so. I might add that western civilization is having a population crisis of SHRINKING numbers. It is the third world countries that are doing their best to keep the population up.

I also figure the earth could maintain a high quality of life for about 200 billion people, give or take...especially as technology improves. Heck, we used to be mostly farmers just to make sure everyone got fed. Now, any famine is caused by politics. There is plenty of food.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I don't think so. I might add that western civilization is having a population crisis of SHRINKING numbers. It is the third world countries that are doing their best to keep the population up.

I also figure the earth could maintain a high quality of life for about 200 billion people, give or take...especially as technology improves. Heck, we used to be mostly farmers just to make sure everyone got fed. Now, any famine is caused by politics. There is plenty of food.

TWO HUNDRED BILLION!?

 

[Direct Driver]

TWO HUNDRED BILLION!?

At least. People really don't grasp just how much empty space there is on this planet, and how much land is not used for animal or plant life. I have little doubt that, given another century, mankind will make every square inch of land and most of the ocean capable of supporting life either as living space or food source. I heard once a few years ago that the entire population of the planet today could live in Texas, with a lot of room to spare.

 

[rambot]

Apparently the big decrease in emissions from vehicles and airplanes, due to Covid shutdowns and restrictions hasn't helped any.

Did you expect 10 months of decreased growth to somehow offset 150years of continued consistent growth?

 

[Direct Driver]

Did you expect 10 months of decreased growth to somehow offset 150years of continued consistent growth?

Your post makes the false premise that something needs to be offset.

 

[rambot]

Your post makes the false premise that something needs to be offset.

1) Define false premise
2) Explain how carbon dioxide traps heat.