Originally posted by JohnR7
You would have to get something like a hamster to evolve into a dog to prove evolution.
All you need to "prove" evolution is new species. Because the biological reality is species. The transition you are talking about is simply multiple speciation events spread through time.
Now, your example is between two families. Rodents and canines. Well, in the fossil record are series of transitional individuals linking two families.
Transitional series from one family to another in foraminerfera
1.
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/foram/foramintro.html
2.
http://cushforams.niu.edu/Forams.htm
There are also transitions between one order to another and between one class and another. That latter is the equivalent of going from reptiles to mammals.
Transitional individuals from one class to another
1. Principles of Paleontology by DM Raup and SM Stanley, 1971, there are transitional series between classes. (mammals and reptiles are examples of a class)
2. HK Erben, Uber den Ursprung der Ammonoidea. Biol. Rev. 41: 641-658, 1966.
Transitional individuals from one order to another
1. C Teichert "Nautiloidea-Discorsorida" and "Actinoceratoidea" in Treatise on Invertebrate Paleontology ed RC Moore, 1964
So, by your criteria, evolution is proved. Thank you.
Also the artical a few days ago about the wolf's that there was only a mother and a father and the brothers and sisters were breeding among themselves and how they were going extinct tell a outsider wolf came along. They grew in size from 10 to 100, because some new genes came along. That puts a real dent in the idea that the son of Adam and Eve mated with a sister. Because it is now known that a race can not form itself between a brother and a sister.
Can you cite that article? Actually, a single pair has about 75% of the genetic diversity of the entire population. And founder events involving a single breeding pair-- particularly Drosophila in Hawaii -- are known.
Genesis 1:12
And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
This quote equates "kind" to species. And therefore we have seen new "kinds" come into existence. Examples include:
2. Speciation in action Science 72:700-701, 1996 A great laboratory study of the evolution of a hybrid plant species. Scientists did it in the lab, but the genetic data says it happened the same way in nature. Follow up paper in PNAS
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/95/20/11757
2a. Hybrid speciation in peonies
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/061288698v1#B1
5. Toxic Tailings and Tolerant Grass by RE Cook in Natural History, vol90(3): 28-38, 1981
Muntzig, A, Triticale Results and Problems, Parey, Berlin, 1979. Describes whole new *genus* of plants, Triticosecale, of several species, a hybrid of wheat and rye.
Genesis 1:21
And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Transitional series of land animals to whales:
1.
http://www.neoucom.edu/Depts/ANAT/whaleorigins.htm
2.
http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage.taf?file=/nature/journal/v413/n6853/full/413277a0_fs.html
The data are very clear that new populations unable to "breed after their own kind" have been made both in the lab and in the wild.
Thank you for showing that macroevolution is speciation by aliteral interpretation of the Bible, so that we can show you that macroevolution has happened.
