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Not anymore, at least. A lot of MAGA people draw the line at pedophilia.


Fraud, sexual assault, and slander are illegal, too. But MAGA was fine with those.
naw those are more liberal type of doings...remember the Clintons? They were the masters of it!
 
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Not anymore, at least. A lot of MAGA people draw the line at pedophilia.


Fraud, sexual assault, and slander are illegal, too. But MAGA was fine with those.

naw those are more liberal type of doings...
Donald Trump is a liberal? I don't think so.

remember the Clintons?
When were they found by courts to have done any of those things, as Trump was?
 
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Donald Trump is a liberal? I don't think so.
When were they found by courts to have done any of those things, as Trump was?
Never said he was a liberal. But Clinton is! Remember Monica Lewinsky and Paula Jones? Whitewater?
 
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Donald Trump is a liberal? I don't think so.
When were they found by courts to have done any of those things, as Trump was?

Never said he was a liberal. But Clinton is! Remember Monica Lewinsky
She bragged about having an affair with Clinton. Pretty despicable, but not sexual assault or pedophilia.

Paula Jones?
He asked her to have sex with him. Pretty despicable, but not sexual assault or pedophilia.

Whitewater?
Even a republican-selected prosecutor admitted that the Clintons did nothing illegal in the Whitewater scam. They were victims, having invested in the scheme. Would you like me to show you?

Compare to Trump who bragged about getting away with sexual assault, and was found by a court to have sexually assaulted a woman. And of course, his adventures with his pedophile pal Epstein. We still don't know what went on there. Maybe nothing. But of so, why is he hiding what went on?
 
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Enough of them to impeach him out of office if he’s guilty?
I'm guessing not. The people who support him, maybe. But the reps in Congress lack the moral fiber to do it.
 
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She bragged about having an affair with Clinton. Pretty despicable, but not sexual assault or pedophilia.

He asked her to have sex with him. Pretty despicable, but not sexual assault or pedophilia.

Even a republican-selected prosecutor admitted that the Clintons did nothing illegal in the Whitewater scam. They were victims, having invested in the scheme. Would you like me to show you?

Compare to Trump who bragged about getting away with sexual assault, and was found by a court to have sexually assaulted a woman. And of course, his adventures with his pedophile pal Epstein. We still don't know what went on there. Maybe nothing. But of so, why is he hiding what went on?
LOL She bragged because she DID, while Clinton was married, IN THE WHITEHOUSE and he lied about it. The McDougals took the fall for the Clintons. Susan McDougal was convicted of fraud and spent time in jail for refusing to testify before a grand jury in which she would have purjured herself protecting the Clintons. McDougal himself, after the fraud conviction, turned against the Clintons, alleging that they were in on his schemes. And then there was the Hillary cattle investment! Hillary began investing in cattle futures, and saw her initial $1,000 investment grow to nearly $100,000 in less than a year. That gain came in for considerable scrutiny during Bill’s presidency; one analysis estimated that even under the most generous of assumptions, the odds of a return that large during the period in question are about one in 31 trillion. Hillary was also allowed to buy 10 cattle contracts (normally worth $12,000) with only $1,000 in her trading account, increasing suspicions that she had received favorable treatment because Bill held political office. What happened to Vince Foster? Epstein? Hmmm. Trumps "convictions" were lawfare. Trump knew Epstein and that was it. Clinton and a bunch of other liberals actually visited the island.
 
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LOL She bragged because she DID, while Clinton was married, IN THE WHITEHOUSE and he lied about it.
Which led to the unique case of a president being impeached for lying about a ...... What if Trump was impeached for each time he lied about a sexual encounter? Puts it all into perspective, doesn't it? Bill Clinton was a creep. Trump is just a more flagrant creep.

Susan McDougal was convicted of fraud and spent time in jail for refusing to testify before a grand jury in which she would have purjured herself protecting the Clintons.
Turned out to be a fantasy, as even a republican-chosen special prosecutor finally admitted. Reality matters.

And then there was the Hillary cattle investment! Hillary began investing in cattle futures, and saw her initial $1,000 investment grow to nearly $100,000 in less than a year.
And that's illegal, because Hillary did it? It's not like she shed her stocks just before Bill Clinton announced huge new tariffs. But that did happen lately, not involving Hillary. Would you like to learn about that?

What happened to Vince Foster?
A huge investigation showed suicide. Every detail was carefully examined by the republicans' special prosecutor, who found nothing suspicious.
Trump's people want us to believe he killed himself, but the supposed continuous recording of his cell has a deletion no one can adequately explain. A lot of people, realizing Epstein could have implicated Trump, think Epstein was suicided on Trump's orders.

Trumps "convictions" were lawfare.
All criminals say they were raliroaded. Trump is no different. Like all convicted felons, he has no excuse but "no fair!"

Trump knew Epstein and that was it.
Well, that's the issue, isn't it? If the facts clear him of pedophilia, why not just release the files? The fact that he was caught entering the dressing room of adolescent girls at one of his events, is a key indicator, as is the fact that a court found him to have sexually assaulted a woman.
 
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Which led to the unique case of a president being impeached for lying about a ...... What if Trump was impeached for each time he lied about a sexual encounter? Puts it all into perspective, doesn't it? Bill Clinton was a creep. Trump is just a more flagrant creep.

And that's illegal, because Hillary did it? It's not like she shed her stocks just before Bill Clinton announced huge new tariffs. But that did happen lately, not involving Hillary. Would you like to learn about that?

A huge investigation showed suicide. Every detail was carefully examined by the republicans' special prosecutor, who found nothing suspicious.

Trump's people want us to believe he killed himself, but the supposed continuous recording of his cell has a deletion no one can adequately explain. A lot of people, realizing Epstein could have implicated Trump, think Epstein was suicided on Trump's orders.

Well, that's the issue, isn't it? If the facts clear him of pedophilia, why not just release the files? The fact that he was caught entering the dressing room of adolescent girls at one of his events, is a key indicator, as is the fact that a court found him to have sexually assaulted a woman.
We KNOW Clinton lied...to the American public. The Clintons used their influence to make money...1000 into 100000...suicide, there are still MANY people that think the Clintons had a hand in it. Epstein was more likely killed by the Clintons. If they had anything on Trump they would have publicized it under Biden. Trump knew Epstein and that was it. Clinton actually visited the island. Trump has never been accused of pedophilia. Biden on the other hand...Tara Reade has accused Biden of sexually assaulting her twenty-seven years ago, and several women have accused him of unwanted touching. Lucy Flores alleged that Biden smelled her hair and gave her “a big slow kiss” on the back of her head at an event for her 2014 campaign. In that moment, she wrote, she felt “embarrassed” and “shocked.” When Amy Lappos was a congressional aide for U.S. representative Jim Himes in 2009, she claims that Biden touched and rubbed his nose against hers during a political fund-raiser. D.J. Hill said Biden rested his hand on her shoulder, and then started to move it down her back, which left her feeling “very uncomfortable.” Caitlyn Caruso claimed that after sharing the story of her sexual assault at a University of Nevada event in 2016, Biden hugged her “just a little bit too long” and laid his hand on her thigh. There are others...and we CAN see a pattern here...
 
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Which led to the unique case of a president being impeached for lying about a ...... What if Trump was impeached for each time he lied about a sexual encounter? Puts it all into perspective, doesn't it? Bill Clinton was a creep. Trump is just a more flagrant creep.


Turned out to be a fantasy, as even a republican-chosen special prosecutor finally admitted. Reality matters.


And that's illegal, because Hillary did it? It's not like she shed her stocks just before Bill Clinton announced huge new tariffs. But that did happen lately, not involving Hillary. Would you like to learn about that?


A huge investigation showed suicide. Every detail was carefully examined by the republicans' special prosecutor, who found nothing suspicious.

Trump's people want us to believe he killed himself, but the supposed continuous recording of his cell has a deletion no one can adequately explain. A lot of people, realizing Epstein could have implicated Trump, think Epstein was suicided on Trump's orders.


All criminals say they were raliroaded. Trump is no different. Like all convicted felons, he has no excuse but "no fair!"


Well, that's the issue, isn't it? If the facts clear him of pedophilia, why not just release the files? The fact that he was caught entering the dressing room of adolescent girls at one of his events, is a key indicator, as is the fact that a court found him to have sexually assaulted a woman.
He’s always crying “no fair” and acts as if he’s the most picked on person in the whole world.
 
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We KNOW Clinton lied...to the American public.
Unlike Trump? C'mon.
The Clintons used their influence to make money.
Unlike Trump who once stole from a charity, and who was forced to pay back millions to people he defrauded in his fake "Trump University" scam?

suicide, there are still MANY people that think the Clintons had a hand in it.
I notice who had control of the federal prison system when Epstein died. I notice they claimed to have video showing every moment in his cell, but the video has a gap. I notice that people aren't buying Trump's story:
Public opinion in the United States has shifted drastically regarding the death of wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein, a new YouGov poll reporting that half of Americans now believe Epstein was murdered.

This marks a significant increase from 39 percent earlier in July 2025, making the murder theory as prevalent as any other explanation for his death as of August 2025.

The surge in Americans who believe Epstein was killed, rather than died by suicide, reflects not only deep skepticism about official explanations but also continuing distrust in government transparency when powerful individuals are involved.

Epstein's death, officially ruled a suicide by federal authorities, has fueled conspiracy theories and dominated political discourse, attracting attention across the political spectrum and leaving significant policy and reputational implications for major national institutions, including the Department of Justice, the presidency, and the federal prison system. The issue has also become a flashpoint for President Donald Trump's administration, with frustration growing among his supporters over the perceived lack of accountability and transparency.
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Despite saying he would release a so called Epstein client list, during the 2024 election race, President Trump has recently repeatedly pushed back against renewed scrutiny and conspiracy theories, calling the Epstein controversy a "hoax," while his allies pressed law enforcement to publicize more details.


Trump had the motive and the opportunity. So until he comes clean about it, people are going to suspect that Epstein was suicided.

Trump has never been accused of pedophilia.


In April 2016, an anonymous woman using the pseudonym "Katie Johnson" filed a lawsuit in California accusing both Trump and Jeffrey Epstein of forcibly raping her when she was 13 years old at underage sex parties at Epstein's Manhattan residence in 1994.[51][52] The case was dismissed the following month. A second version of the lawsuit was filed in New York in June by the same woman as "Jane Doe" claiming to have been raped and sexually assaulted by the pair at four 1994 parties when she was 13.[53][54] The lawsuit was refiled in September,[55] and on November 2, Doe was scheduled to appear at a press conference at the office of Lisa Bloom before abruptly canceling; Bloom said Jane Doe had received multiple threats.
"I loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop, but he did not," Jane Doe wrote in a formal declaration accompanying her recent suits. "Defendant Trump responded to my pleas by violently striking me in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. ... Immediately following this rape, Defendant Trump threatened me that, were I ever to reveal any of the details of Defendant Trump's sexual and physical abuse of me, my family and I would be physically harmed if not killed."

The lawsuit was withdrawn two days later.


He's always been a creeper for young girls:
Teen Beauty Queens Say Donald Trump Walked in on Them Changing When They Were as Young as 15
At least four women who competed in a Miss Teen USA beauty pageant told BuzzFeed News that Donald Trump walked into their dressing room while the contestants as young as 15 were undressing.
Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA, tells Buzzfeed that the now 70-year-old Republican presidential candidate caused a panic in the dressing room of the 1997 pageant when he barged in unannounced as the young women were changing.
However, she says Trump shrugged off the intrusion, saying something along the lines of: “Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.”


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Tara Reade has accused Biden of sexually assaulting her twenty-seven years ago
Wrye’s distressing experience with Reade wasn’t an isolated case. Over the past decade, Reade has left a trail of aggrieved acquaintances in California’s Central Coast region who say they remember two things about her — she spoke favorably about her time working for Biden, and she left them feeling duped.

As part of an investigation into Reade’s allegations against Biden — charges that are already shaping the contours of his campaign against a president who has been accused of sexual assault and misconduct by multiple women — POLITICO interviewed more than a dozen people, many of whom interacted with Reade through her involvement in the animal-rescue community.

A number of those in close contact with Reade over the past 12 years, a period in which she went by the names Tara Reade, Tara McCabe or Alexandra McCabe, laid out a familiar pattern: Reade ingratiated herself, explained she was down on her luck and needed help, and eventually took advantage of their goodwill to extract money, skip rent payments or walk out on other bills.


On the other hand, Trump has been found by a court to have sexually assaulted a woman. Just last year:

Federal appeals court upholds sexual abuse verdict against Trump​

Not surprising that dozens of women have accused Trump of everything from stalking to rape. Would you like the details?
There are others...and we CAN see a pattern here...
 
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Unlike Trump? C'mon.

Unlike Trump who once stole from a charity, and who was forced to pay back millions to people he defrauded in his fake "Trump University" scam?


I notice who had control of the federal prison system when Epstein died. I notice they claimed to have video showing every moment in his cell, but the video has a gap. I notice that people aren't buying Trump's story:
Public opinion in the United States has shifted drastically regarding the death of wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein, a new YouGov poll reporting that half of Americans now believe Epstein was murdered.

This marks a significant increase from 39 percent earlier in July 2025, making the murder theory as prevalent as any other explanation for his death as of August 2025.

The surge in Americans who believe Epstein was killed, rather than died by suicide, reflects not only deep skepticism about official explanations but also continuing distrust in government transparency when powerful individuals are involved.

Epstein's death, officially ruled a suicide by federal authorities, has fueled conspiracy theories and dominated political discourse, attracting attention across the political spectrum and leaving significant policy and reputational implications for major national institutions, including the Department of Justice, the presidency, and the federal prison system. The issue has also become a flashpoint for President Donald Trump's administration, with frustration growing among his supporters over the perceived lack of accountability and transparency.
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Despite saying he would release a so called Epstein client list, during the 2024 election race, President Trump has recently repeatedly pushed back against renewed scrutiny and conspiracy theories, calling the Epstein controversy a "hoax," while his allies pressed law enforcement to publicize more details.


Trump had the motive and the opportunity. So until he comes clean about it, people are going to suspect that Epstein was suicided.




In April 2016, an anonymous woman using the pseudonym "Katie Johnson" filed a lawsuit in California accusing both Trump and Jeffrey Epstein of forcibly raping her when she was 13 years old at underage sex parties at Epstein's Manhattan residence in 1994.[51][52] The case was dismissed the following month. A second version of the lawsuit was filed in New York in June by the same woman as "Jane Doe" claiming to have been raped and sexually assaulted by the pair at four 1994 parties when she was 13.[53][54] The lawsuit was refiled in September,[55] and on November 2, Doe was scheduled to appear at a press conference at the office of Lisa Bloom before abruptly canceling; Bloom said Jane Doe had received multiple threats.
"I loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop, but he did not," Jane Doe wrote in a formal declaration accompanying her recent suits. "Defendant Trump responded to my pleas by violently striking me in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. ... Immediately following this rape, Defendant Trump threatened me that, were I ever to reveal any of the details of Defendant Trump's sexual and physical abuse of me, my family and I would be physically harmed if not killed."

The lawsuit was withdrawn two days later.


He's always been a creeper for young girls:
Teen Beauty Queens Say Donald Trump Walked in on Them Changing When They Were as Young as 15
At least four women who competed in a Miss Teen USA beauty pageant told BuzzFeed News that Donald Trump walked into their dressing room while the contestants as young as 15 were undressing.
Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA, tells Buzzfeed that the now 70-year-old Republican presidential candidate caused a panic in the dressing room of the 1997 pageant when he barged in unannounced as the young women were changing.
However, she says Trump shrugged off the intrusion, saying something along the lines of: “Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.”


(repeat "It's all Biden's fault")


Wrye’s distressing experience with Reade wasn’t an isolated case. Over the past decade, Reade has left a trail of aggrieved acquaintances in California’s Central Coast region who say they remember two things about her — she spoke favorably about her time working for Biden, and she left them feeling duped.

As part of an investigation into Reade’s allegations against Biden — charges that are already shaping the contours of his campaign against a president who has been accused of sexual assault and misconduct by multiple women — POLITICO interviewed more than a dozen people, many of whom interacted with Reade through her involvement in the animal-rescue community.

A number of those in close contact with Reade over the past 12 years, a period in which she went by the names Tara Reade, Tara McCabe or Alexandra McCabe, laid out a familiar pattern: Reade ingratiated herself, explained she was down on her luck and needed help, and eventually took advantage of their goodwill to extract money, skip rent payments or walk out on other bills.


On the other hand, Trump has been found by a court to have sexually assaulted a woman. Just last year:

Federal appeals court upholds sexual abuse verdict against Trump​

Not surprising that dozens of women have accused Trump of everything from stalking to rape. Would you like the details?
There are others...and we CAN see a pattern here...
Yep. Trump is a creep.
 
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