Morality Is Relative

[quatona]

Just not true. Killing the Jews was immoral and it matters not what Hitler and the killers thought about it.

At least, that´s what you (and I) think about it. Had we lived in Germany in the 1940s, our society would have thought different about it, and you and I might have, either.

 

[quatona]

Oh yah. And where I am from it is considered a virtue to kill relativists. But you can't condemn me, because morality is relative, at least in your belief. I don't believe it's relative, but that doesn't matter.

I am not interested in condemning anyone, but I might try to keep someone from doing to me what he thinks is ok, and I don´t. I don´t need no absolute morality for it. It just requires my subjective conviction.
On another note, everyone who wishes to condemn you can condemn you even if he does not believe in an absolute moral to exist. He can do that entirely subjectively.
You make it sound like declaring one´s subjective moral to be objective (or God-given) would make it so.

 

[quatona]

If you want to convince me that something is good/right or bad/wrong I expect you to provide me with arguments for that notion.
E.g."Hitler was (or homosexuality or adultery or whatever is) wrong/evil" doesn´t cut it. If you want to establish this notion, you sure can give me good arguments for it.
Merely calling your notion objective doesn´t do anything to convince anyone.
And as long as not everyone has the same view, it´s completely irrelevant whether there is an objective morality out there or not.
Just keep in mind that a hypothetically existing objective morality does not mean that it is the one you hold.

 

[Electric Skeptic]

Oh yah. And where I am from it is considered a virtue to kill relativists. But you can't condemn me, because morality is relative, at least in your belief. I don't believe it's relative, but that doesn't matter.

I wouldn't condemn you. The law would, which has nothing to do with morality.

 

[rebelEnigma]

At least, that´s what you (and I) think about it. Had we lived in Germany in the 1940s, our society would have thought different about it, and you and I might have, either.

Just because a whole lot of people think something is right, doesn't make it right. It just means a whole lot of people are wrong.

 

[quatona]

Just because a whole lot of people think something is right, doesn't make it right.

Sure, but this wasn´t my claim nor did I mean to imply it.
Then again someone saying "It is right because the god of my concept says it´s right" doesn´t make things right, either.

Just because a whole lot of people think something is right, doesn't make it right. It just means a whole lot of people are wrong.

(emphasis added)
I´m not sure you really mean it the way you have worded your conclusion here.

 

[Brimshack]

Just because a whole lot of people think something is right, doesn't make it right. It just means a whole lot of people are wrong.

That's one dead straw man.

Well done.