Moral is only objective

[zephcom]

satan: "God has killed Babies by the Great Flood, and the rape is not mentioned in ten commandments."
You are trying to prove, that murdering babies and rape are not immoral. It is the immoral lie.

It's your Bible. I'm good if you want to say that the Bible is wrong. But it DOES say God ordered all of those people, including infants, to be killed. And if God does it, how can it be immoral?

BTW, I Samuel 15 does not talk about the Flood.

So, I'm just curious and you are welcome to not answer, but are you one of those Russian people who's day job is pretending to be an American so they can stir the pot and create animosity in America??? I'm just wondering because I know a lot of Christians and almost to the person they wouldn't be making the kind of comments you have been.

 

[joinfree]

It's your Bible. I'm good if you want to say that the Bible is wrong. But it DOES say God ordered all of those people, including infants, to be killed. And if God does it, how can it be immoral?

BTW, I Samuel 15 does not talk about the Flood.

So, I'm just curious and you are welcome to not answer, but are you one of those Russian people who's day job is pretending to be an American so they can stir the pot and create animosity in America??? I'm just wondering because I know a lot of Christians and almost to the person they wouldn't be making the kind of comments you have been.

You are trying to prove to those, who know the Holiness of God, that murdering babies and rape are not immoral. It is the immoral satanic lie. Are you teaching to those, who reject the Holy God, that the objective moral does not exist without the God? So, even the Holy Bible and your own mom are the examples of immorality for you?

 

[zephcom]

You are trying to prove to those, who know the Holiness of God, that murdering babies and rape are not immoral. It is the immoral satanic lie. Are you teaching to those, who reject the Holy God, that the objective moral does not exist without the God? So, even the Holy Bible and your own mom are the examples of immorality for you?

<chuckle> I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just pointing out that the Bible says that God ordered babies to be killed. And I notice you have continued to ignore that fact while making baseless attacks against me.

If your 'Holy God' which causes your 'objective morality' to exist can order babies to be killed, how could killing babies possibly be immoral??

But let me help you with your next rant...objective morality doesn't exist with or without your 'Holy God'. Morality is always just behavior restrictions commonly accepted within a community which defines acceptable behavior of community members. They are subject to acceptance and/or change by the community.

 

[Tanj]

Is English your first language?

...or anywhere in the top 10?

 

[DogmaHunter]

And since Atheists do not recognize Moral values

Which atheists do not recognize moral values?

ps: i'm an atheist. i recognize lots of moral values. And eventhough I can't speak for others, i'll happily state that I don't think you'll find a single atheist on this forum that doesn't recognize moral values......

, they are maliciously lying:

If you can't answer the previous question, then appologise for that accusation.

The presence of two morals means double standards. And this is falsehood and arbitrariness. The presence of two morals does not make one of the morals absolutely necessary to use. And this is hypocrisy.

Not sure what you are saying here. Is this a reference to something in the video?
Kindly post a summary of the video, specifically the points concerning these two "morals".

 

[DogmaHunter]

Look the video. They told it in plain text!

"they"?

That video was likely made by a single person.
So who died and made him the leader of atheists?

So you watch this random video on youtube made by some atheist, and just assume that it reflects the beliefs and opinions of every single atheist?



Also, eventhough I haven't watched the video (no sound here), I somehow am willing to bet that you are misrepresenting it as well.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Man, the atheists put in doubt the IMMORALITY of KILLING Babies!

You mean, like what your moral god ordered israelites to do? Even the cattle had to die.
Not virgin girls though. They could keep them as slaves. War booty.

Babies! Look again the video! They said about babies in plain text! Babies! Cute blue-eye babies!

I know right.... Babies, toddlers, children.... They all had to be killed by command of god.

 

[DogmaHunter]

They have put the Babies in danger! Nobody can even think, to murder a baby!

Except God. And not just 1 baby, but all babies. Infanticide, is what it's called I believe.

 

[DogmaHunter]

The God is Holy. If not, then you have disproven the Holy Church, why then you haven't won the Nobel Prize?

Because Nobel Prizes aren't handed out for disproving nonsense.




Sorry, couldn't help myself.

The video proves, that in sick twisted mouth of atheists the moral values do not exist. If I am wrong, then the moral exists also in the mind of atheists, so latter are liars (the satan is inventor of lies). A thing, who doubts the moral, is the immoral liar.

The only thing proven in this thread, is how hostile, full of hatred and intellectually dishonest you are, when it comes to the subject of atheist.

 

[DogmaHunter]

You are trying to prove to those, who know the Holiness of God, that murdering babies and rape are not immoral. It is the immoral satanic lie. Are you teaching to those, who reject the Holy God, that the objective moral does not exist without the God? So, even the Holy Bible and your own mom are the examples of immorality for you?

Just so you know, eventhough I don't like doing it, I reported you and this thread for extreme trolling, false accusations, flat out lying and just being extremely insulting in general.

Enough is enough.

 

[Dave-W]

Which atheists do not recognize moral values?
ps: i'm an atheist. i recognize lots of moral values. And eventhough I can't speak for others, i'll happily state that I don't think you'll find a single atheist on this forum that doesn't recognize moral values......

I have been a firm Christian believer all of my life (63 years and counting). I have known several atheists, and only one out of the group I would say had no moral sense.

Only one.

 

[joinfree]

I have been a firm Christian believer all of my life (63 years and counting). I have known several atheists, and only one out of the group I would say had no moral sense.

Only one.

Because God is God of Truth. Anyone knows him, however many just more afraid of satan, than of God.

TO THE PUBLIC:
In the video
https://youtu.be/IFgJ8H0iOmY

the moral proof says, that the moral comes from God. But the atheists pretend to have no God, so, logically, they have pretended, that the moral does not exist. They serioulsy discussing the murdering the babies, not seeing the immorality of such criminal discussions. If a human asks to prove, that he has the moral, then he does not have the moral. Otherwise he will know the presence of moral inside him. If I am wrong, then the moral exists also in the mind of atheists, so latter are liars (the satan is inventor of lies). A thing, who doubts the moral, is the immoral liar.

 

[Dave-W]

the moral proof says, that the moral comes from God. But the atheists pretend to have no God, so, logically, they have pretended, that the moral does not exist.

You are talking theories here which have no basis in reality.

How many atheists do you actually know?

 

[Skreeper]

Because God is God of Truth. Anyone knows him, however many just more afraid of satan, than of God.

TO THE PUBLIC:
In the video
https://youtu.be/IFgJ8H0iOmY

the moral proof says, that the moral comes from God. But the atheists pretend to have no God, so, logically, they have pretended, that the moral does not exist. They serioulsy discussing the murdering the babies, not seeing the immorality of such criminal discussions. If a human asks to prove, that he has the moral, then he does not have the moral. Otherwise he will know the presence of moral inside him. If I am wrong, then the moral exists also in the mind of atheists, so latter are liars (the satan is inventor of lies). A thing, who doubts the moral, is the immoral liar.

The stuff you write reads like the result of trying to use google translate on a whole paragraph 5 times in a row...

 

[Belk]

Define the word "morality" as an objective phenomenon. Otherwise it is not objectively existing. And once morality is objective, then the notion of morality is shared by all people, then the Morality of Christ is in every person. And since Atheists do not recognize Moral values, they are maliciously lying:

The presence of two morals means double standards. And this is falsehood and arbitrariness. The presence of two morals does not make one of the morals absolutely necessary to use. And this is hypocrisy.
View attachment 240709

Ah joinfree. Decided to branch out from your physics claims and come tell us how much you hate atheists in a moral sense?

 

[St. Helens]

MOD HAT ON

OF THE FOLLOWING RULE
Flaming and Goading
Please treat all members with respect and courtesy through civil dialogue.
Do not personally attack (insult, belittle, mock, ridicule) other members or groups of members on CF. Address only the content of the post and not the poster.
MOD HAT OFF​