Moon light - the word of God vs falsely so called science

[AV1611VET]

There are Hindu geologists and Jewish geologists and Christian geologists and Muslim geologists and atheist geologists.

All but a handful agree the earth is billions of years old. That doesn't make them atheists.

And all but this handful interpret their information from the same source, don't they?

 

[Hans Blaster]

In my general statement the general term of atheist suffices. Any subset like geologist or astronomist can designate themselves according to their particular expertise.

Much like anyone may call people who believe the Bible, Christians, not knowing or bothering to make a distinction between the particular denomination an individual Christian may identify themselves by.

Geologists are not a subset of atheists. They are different categories describing different things.

Atheists don't believe in gods.
Geologists are scientists who study rocks.

One can be either, both, or neither. There is no connection between the two.

It is geology that demonstrates that Noah's flood didn't happen.

Atheists just don't have any reason to *believe* the tales of the ancient Israelites because we don't believe in their god.

 

[AV1611VET]

It is geology that demonstrates that Noah's flood didn't happen.

What made them look in the first place?

 

[essentialsaltes]

And all but this handful interpret their information from the same source, don't they?

Yes, the earth.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes, the earth.

You're entitled to your opinion.

 

[Astrid]

Nobody's demanding anything, just pointing out some obvious facts.

There are Hindu geologists and Jewish geologists and Christian geologists and Muslim geologists and atheist geologists.

All but a handful agree the earth is billions of years old. That doesn't make them atheists.

And said handful have to abandon integrity as they
have no data for their beliefs, so what they mayp
choose to believe is of no value.

 

[AV1611VET]

And said handful have to abandon integrity as they have no data for their beliefs,

Then neither does anyone else have data for "said handful's beliefs."

So we all have to "abandon our integrity," don't we?

Just fyi:

Comedian Andrew Maxwell takes five British creationists to the west coast of America to try to convince them that evolution rather than creationism explains how we all got here.

Here's a short clip from it:

A geologist and an Irish creationist debate atop of the Grand Canyon.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Then neither does anyone else have data for "said handful's beliefs."

Correct, no one has data supporting the beliefs of the handful of young earth geologists.

 

[Astrid]

Correct, no one has data supporting the beliefs of the handful of young earth geologists.

The yec have the bible, not evidence.
So that prob is handwaved.
' ....even if all the evidence in the universe turns against yec I'd still be yec coz bible..."

I suppose it's tough for those with no integrity
to see themselves, or to even know what integrity is.

 

[dlamberth]

In my general statement the general term of atheist suffices.

Looking back at your statement regarding Noah's flood, it was specifically directed towards atheist. There was nothing general about it. What can specifically be said about Noah's flood is that there is zero evidence of said flood. The effects of a flood like that, if it actually happened, would be would be impossible to hide.

 

[dlamberth]

Then neither does anyone else have data for "said handful's beliefs."

So we all have to "abandon our integrity," don't we?

The fact that there was no Noah's flood is well established by many, many people around the globe. There's a ton of data to draw from. That's something that the Noah's flood people don't have because all they do have are "beliefs".

 

[Astrid]

Looking back at your statement regarding Noah's flood, it was specifically directed towards atheist. There was nothing general about it. What can specifically be said about Noah's flood is that there is zero evidence of said flood. The effects of a flood like that, if it actually happened, would be would be impossible to hide.

The "yes there is evidence" boys should duke it out with thems as say there isn't any, coz God tidied up.

 

[AV1611VET]

The yec have the bible, not evidence.

In the end, which will remain?

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

 

[AV1611VET]

The effects of a flood like that, if it actually happened, would be would be impossible to hide.

God can hide anything from atheists; and I guarantee you, if He does, they'll never find it -- ever.

However, in the case of Noah's flood, God didn't hide anything.

In fact, He documented what He did, why He did it, where He did it, when He did it, how He did it, what order He did it in, how long it took Him to do it, and who the eyewitnesses were.

There would be no need to hide its effects from future view.

 

[AV1611VET]

The fact that there was no Noah's flood is well established by many, many people around the globe.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

I don't care how well established they claim it is.

It's only established on paper.

And those who want to make it in this world had better get good grades on those papers, or they'll have to pursue another lifestyle.

There's a ton of data to draw from.

Made up data.

That's something that the Noah's flood people don't have because all they do have are "beliefs".

Those beliefs are backed up -- in Writing -- by an Author who will arrive shortly to put everything into perspective.

 

[AV1611VET]

The "yes there is evidence" boys should duke it out with thems as say there isn't any, coz God tidied up.

That's ironic, coming from someone who put me on IGNORE for that reason.

You want them to "duke it out" with us, but you hide behind the IGNORE button.

Solid aurum.

 

[Kylie]

I can beat that with any word or combo of words.

Okay, let's see you make a grammatically correct sentence using the word "dissolving" ten times in a row.

 

[Kylie]

In my general statement the general term of atheist suffices. Any subset like geologist or astronomist can designate themselves according to their particular expertise.

Much like anyone may call people who believe the Bible, Christians, not knowing or bothering to make a distinction between the particular denomination an individual Christian may identify themselves by.

You know there are plenty of geologists who are Christian, right?

Or are you going to invoke the "No True Scotsman" fallacy?

 

[Astrid]

Okay, let's see you make a grammatically correct sentence using the word "dissolving" ten times in a row.

I'll abbreviate to just " d".

"That crazy man just sits there saying
' d d d d d d d d d d' and it's so annoying:."

 

[AV1611VET]

I'll abbreviate to just " d".

"That crazy man just sits there saying
' d d d d d d d d d d' and it's so annoying:."

You gotta give her credit for that one, Kylie!