Moon light - the word of God vs falsely so called science

[madaz]

Science can take a hike.

Science doesn't have a monopoly on turning objects, just because someone called it "rotation."

And AV's adding to the scripture can take a hike!

AV doesn't have the monopoly on turning objects, just because he called it "torque".

 

[morse86]

When new "scientific" doctrine is introduced, especially to when the antichrist comes and the mark of the beast is given, both AV and ED will be more than happy to "scientifically" explain why taking the mark of the beast is a good thing.

When NASA has an explanation on why the moon and sun are turning black during the rapture, these two will gladly agree with the "scientific" explanations.

I will on the other hand will hold steadfast and root myself in the Lord's word. The lord does not tell us how long a day is, the lord does tells us the earth is fixed, it does not rotate. The lord's word is not popular.

 

[lasthero]

When NASA has an explanation on why the moon and sun are turning black,

Pretty sure we figured out why long NASA came along.

 

[EternalDragon]

Nice try but wrong.

In Genesis 1:4, God created the light and divided it from the darkness
In Genesis 1:14, God places lights in the firmament and divided the day from the night.

So are you telling me god is dividing the light from the darkness twice? You should re-read Genesis 1 again. God is telling us he created the light and divided it from the darkness....the light could be anything and anywhere....it is a "construct". The first day was when this happened...God could've done something else.

Later on, God places lights to divide the day from the night.

I care more about what God says than what science says. God does not say the earth rotates, God does not say a day is 24 hours. That is just your opinion.

No, the stars were an addition for mankind to divide the day and the night. You see where God mentioned they are for signs and seasons?

And yes, God says a day is 24 hours with a morning and evening added to the word. It can't be any clearer.

 

[lasthero]

It can't be any clearer.

I don't know, ED, he makes a strong case. Sure you got the right interpretation?

 

[madaz]

When new "scientific" doctrine is introduced, especially to when the antichrist comes and the mark of the beast is given, both AV and ED will be more than happy to "scientifically" explain why taking the mark of the beast is a good thing.

AV and ED only seem to support science that they can understand, the really technical stuff can "take a hike" from their perspective. They really are on the same side of the fence as you are when it comes to science.

I think you're trolling here.

 

[morse86]

No, the stars were an addition for mankind to divide the day and the night. You see where God mentioned they are for signs and seasons?

And yes, God says a day is 24 hours with a morning and evening added to the word. It can't be any clearer.

Sigh.

God created the sun, the moon, and the stars to divide the day and the night and yes, it was for seasons also. The first day was without all those things...what part of that did you not understand?


The 24 hours is "man's opinion":
Curious About Astronomy: Why is a day divided into 24 hours?

The Egyptians divided the clock into 12 hours of daytime and 12 hours of night-time (or alternatively 10 hours between sunrise and sunset, an hour for each twilight period and 12 hours of darkness). This is known because of various sundials from the period which have been found to be marked with hours. Interestingly this means that hours started out changing in length with the seasons (as the amount of daylight vs. darkness changes).
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However, hours did not have a fixed length until the Greeks decided they needed such a system for theoretical calculations. Hipparchus proposed dividing the day equally into 24 hours which came to be known as equinoctial hours (because they are based on 12 hours of daylight and 12 hours of darkness on the days of the Equinoxes)

The word of God does not say how many hours a day is. To say it is 24 hours is just man's opinion! Stop trying to add to God's word.

 

[AV1611VET]

I just want biblical documentation,

I'll bet you do.

You just moseyed over here from FSTDT, didn't you?

 

[AV1611VET]

You Christians are amusing when you say things like this.

Having It is one thing.

Knowing how to use It is another.

 

[AV1611VET]

If he is, he's putting an insane amount of effort into it. I thought he was, too, but he's crazy all the way back to the first post.

Nope -- he's on a mission.

 

[morse86]

I'll bet you do.

You just moseyed over here from FSTDT, didn't you?

I don't even know what FSTDT is. I want to prove all things by the word of God. If it isn't in the bible (and in this situation, contradicting the direct word of God), I will discard it.

1 Thessaolonians 5:21: Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

What ED said is not in the bible. He is adding his own words to it. He is like the 3 friends of Job who God said were wrong.

I repeat, the bible does not mention anything about 24 hours, that is a man made concept. It does not say the earth rotates/revolves. That is a man made concept.


Romans 3:4: God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

 

[lasthero]

Nope -- he's on a mission.

He's a Blues Brother?

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't even know what FSTDT is.

Right -- and neither do I.

Never heard of it.

I repeat, the bible does not mention anything about 24 hours, that is a man made concept.

Perhaps you could explain this then?

Numbers 11:32a And the people stood up all that day, and all that night, and all the next day, and they gathered the quails:

And while you're at it, explain such "man made concepts" as the Trinity and the Rapture?

 

[AV1611VET]

He's a Blues Brother?

An actor?

IMO, yes.

 

[madaz]

I repeat, the bible does not mention anything about 24 hours, that is a man made concept. It does not say the earth rotates/revolves. That is a man made concept.

I agree with lasthero, you are making a strong argument.

I'm just curious to know, what is your own personal explanation, for why we experience the rotating/24hr day?

Something a little more comprehensive than..."That is a man made concept".

 

[morse86]

Firstly, God says the earth is fixed so it cannot be rotating. I take the biblical point of view first. If the science contradicts, I still go with God's word.

How do we know if it is actually rotating? There are only simple experiments which their results can be explained in several ways. The other evidence is all fraudulent (read the evidence for yourself and decide): Curious About Astronomy: Is there a proof that Earth moves?

The 24 hours is a man made concept. I could come up with the hours format if I wanted. It is not proving anything. You could peg the hours of the day to the gold standard if you wanted to. See the reference below:

Curious About Astronomy: Why is a day divided into 24 hours?

However, hours did not have a fixed length until the Greeks decided they needed such a system for theoretical calculations. Hipparchus proposed dividing the day equally into 24 hours which came to be known as equinoctial hours (because they are based on 12 hours of daylight and 12 hours of darkness on the days of the Equinoxes). Ordinary people continued to use the seasonally varying hours for a long time. Only with the advent of mechanical clocks in Europe in the 14th Century, did the system we use today become common place.

Regarding AV's reply above....the trinity is in the bible, it is called the godhead. The rapture is in the bible, it is the second coming of Jesus Christ. Both the trinity and the rapture are man made terms but they are biblical. The 24 hours is not biblical, there is no mention of it in the bible.

 

[AV1611VET]

The 24 hours is a man made concept.

Like the Rapture and the Trinity?

 

[morse86]

Like the Rapture and the Trinity?

The rapture and trinity are both in the bible, the Godhead and the second coming of Jesus Christ. Man has decided to call it a different name.

The 24 hours on the other hand is NOT in the bible. You know this is true, stop lieing (sorry to be harsh) and stop trying to add to God's word.

 

[AV1611VET]

The rapture and trinity are both in the bible,

Then your arguments can take a hike.

 

[morse86]

Then your arguments can take a hike.

1 John 5:7:
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Are 3 not a trinity? We know the 3 is called the godhead.


1 Thessalonians 4:17:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Rapture is derived from the latin word for "caught up". The word of God says the saints who are alive at that time will be caught up in the clouds with Jesus Christ.

Both are biblical. The 24 hours a day is NOT biblical....it is a man made concept. As a baptist, you need to do a better job discerning the truth from the lies.

Next you are going to tell me you think sons of God are angels too (unbiblical, read the bible again).