Money

[Q-La]

Hi everyone

I've been thinking that the whole monetary system is very troublesome and causes much evil to mankind. As we moved from exchanging products thousands years ago to exchanging precious metal/stone to paper promises to pay, I wonder there can be another system that will help create a better and fairer society, and would like to hear any opinions/speculation of how/when/where such change can be made.

 

[ThinkerThinker]

The monetary system we have is the best practical system for our current circumstances. It is not the monetary system that causes much evil it is simply evil people using the monetary system and no matter what system you introduce they will find ways of applying their evil to it. What has to change is the evil. After that it would not really matter what system we use.

 

[Invictus]

Money is merely the result of productive work. To consider money evil is to consider productivity evil.

Only under circumstances where money is obtained dishonestly, e.g. through theft or government handouts, can it be considered evil.

 

[Julie]

1 Timothy 6:10http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?pa...age=english&version=KJV&showfn=on&showxref=on
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

 

[transientlife]

Greed is a bad bad thing. It brings out the ugliness in people. Ever watch the most recent gameshows? Some things that people will do, just for some paper with green ink. It's rather shameful, really, IMO.

I also agree with Thinker's point. It's not so much the money, it's the people handling the money that make it so.

 

[Key Peninsula Redneck]

Money is merely the result of productive work.

Actually, money is simply the measure of productive work. As such, it is simply a medium of exchange. It is something that people can use to exchange with each other as a relative measure of the value of any object.

 

[ThinkerThinker]

Actually, money is simply the measure of productive work.

Actually it's not. If it was it would have been fair. You have to equate luck and a host of other variables into the equations as well. I do 16 hours of productive work a day but I don't make close as much money as a stock broker with some luck on his side.

 

[Lifesaver]

We can be glad that we don't depend on barter anymore, Q-La.
Money is a great invention.

The big problem is when the love of money comes before other people, and before God.

 

[billwald]

"Money" is how we keep score in the game of life. It appears "unfair" because the game is continuous and your hand doesn't disappear when one "folds" in death.

The Mosiac Covenant social contract proposed a system that reverted to the starting position every 50 years. Far as I know, it was never tried. After the return from Babylon, the priests and rabbis tried to impose the Mosiac system but it didn't work because they didn't have political control and border control.

These days 90% of all money in circulation is electronic transfer. I think we are stuck with that unless there is a world-wide crash and then the only thing will matter is guns and ammo.

 

[Blessed-one]

even if it isn't money, if we can't get rid of greed and selfishness, anything can be abused.

 

[Icystwolf]

I actually think it is possible, however it's unlikely seeing that corporates are so powerful, placing a new system that is fairer would eliminate them.

Alternatively we just wait till robots did the job for us

 

[Icystwolf]

My simplisitic system.

This is a stem from Games or RPG of how they make their systems fairer.

For starters, there isn't just one currency...that are many. Forexample, Land has it's value whilst food has it's other value.

Trading between those values is not allowed, and all funds go back to the Government.

Thats to say, that if we were to work. Each week I would get $2000.

In the new system, it would be 400pts for food, 300 pts Land/property, 300 pts Appliances and general personal equipment, 400 on personal needs.

A different job will have a different set of payments...

But you can't use the food pts to buy property.

This system is far more civilised, complex and in my opinion, can make it a lot easier to get rid of unfairness.

Why?

Gambling...the most you can spend is $400 a week, the rest you can't use on Gambling. And the Casino's will find it hard to find customers that only trade personal needs points.

Greed... I'm in favor of a Computer based AI, that handles the system.

I would think a CEO would have a bit more than the rest of the people, but not to the extent of millions of points for property...

A system that takes into account the workload and intelligence required, rather than marketting skills to amplfy costs...

I have more in my head...but I'm half asleep...more on that later!