Monergistic Salvation

[Jon_]

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God.
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Scriptures quoted, in order: Mt. 7:21, Jn. 6:40, Jn. 3:3, 1 Co. 2:14, Jn. 6:63, 1 Co. 12:3, Php. 2:13, Titus 3:5, Eph. 2:8, all in the Authorized Version.


Soli Deo Gloria

Jon

 

[Bulldog]

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God.
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Just an observation: it's incredible how some will twist this scripture into saying something at odds with what is actually being said.

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[Erinwilcox]

Regarding your observation, do you or do you not agree with the way that those texts were presented. I really don't see how you couldn't-he didn't say anything except what was already in the Bible. There were no comments to "twist" the text-only scripture passages were given.

 

[Jon_]

Regarding your observation, do you or do you not agree with the way that those texts were presented. I really don't see how you couldn't-he didn't say anything except what was already in the Bible. There were no comments to "twist" the text-only scripture passages were given.

I'm certain that Bulldog is either (1) talking about Arminians distorting the clear meaning of the Scripture, or (2) that he is joking around and giving an Arminian's argument against the clear meaning of Scripture.

Soli Deo Gloria

Jon

 

[Bulldog]

I'm certain that Bulldog is either (1) talking about Arminians distorting the clear meaning of the Scripture

Correct.

 

[Erinwilcox]

Okay. My mind is at ease ! And you were right, it is amazing that somebody could read those verses and understand them any other way.