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Monasticism

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I feel there is great value in monasticism. I'm a Buddhist so it's still quite a thing there so maybe that's why.
But focusing on Christianity... most monastics seem to be in the RC church, though there are Protestant monastics too.

*Do people here feel that living in this sort of community is still a valid path for those who feel suited to it?
*Would you consider spending some or even all of your life in this sort of community?
 
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Martin Luther was a monk and he described the vile and sensual thoughts he had in the monastery before his conversion explaining that physical privation had no benefit to taming man’s desires.
 
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I feel there is great value in monasticism. I'm a Buddhist so it's still quite a thing there so maybe that's why.
But focusing on Christianity... most monastics seem to be in the RC church, though there are Protestant monastics too.

*Do people here feel that living in this sort of community is still a valid path for those who feel suited to it?
*Would you consider spending some or even all of your life in this sort of community?
Don’t forget both the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox when discussing monasticism in Christianity - the East has a long and strong tradition of monastics.

I see great value in monastic life for those who are called to it, and appreciate their prayers for the world and their wisdom.

I do not personally feel called to a monastic life, but it is quite common for Orthodox Christians to do short visits/pilgrimages to monasteries, and I would be quite interested in that (though being a new convert, have not yet had the opportunity).
 
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It's valid, but only some people are suited for it. It wouldn't be right for me.

Any clergyman, monks included, should quickly make that point whenever someone comes along asking about that way of life.
 
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I have spent time at Anglican monasteries in the UK where I have stayed on retreats.
They are an ideal place to get some quiet time, some space away from the busyness of life, and to focus on your relationship with God.
I have a lot of respect for the brothers and sisters who have surrended their lives to serve in this way. It requires a very deep level of commitment and it isn't suitable for everyone. Every time I have been to their houses, I have experienced tremendous peace and my faith has been touched in some profound way.
 
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I feel there is great value in monasticism. I'm a Buddhist so it's still quite a thing there so maybe that's why.
But focusing on Christianity... most monastics seem to be in the RC church, though there are Protestant monastics too.

The West has a strong tradition of monasticism dating back to the lights of the Desert Fathers brought from Egypt by the likes of St. John Cassian (who was from what is now Romania, but died in 435 AD in France), most famously nourished by St. Benedict of Nursia (d. 547) a little while later. But it is important to note that Christian monasticism originally began not in the Western Roman Empire, but in the East in Egypt, with our father St. Anthony who began his life as a hermit in the Egyptian desert at around the age of 20 (c. 270 AD) after the death of his parents. There were others before him such as St. Paul of Thebes (who began his own life of solitude c. 250 AD), but St. Anthony was the first to gain a following, and is often credited as "the father of Christian monasticism". Other important early Christian monks of Egypt include St. Pachomius (292-348), who founded cenobitic monasticism (where monks live in a communal arrangement, rather than alone in caves or in the open desert), St. Macarius (founder of the monastery that bears his name in Wadi El Natrun, c. 360), St. Pigol (who founded the White Monastery in Sohag, Egypt c. 442), and St. Shenouda the Archimandrite (nephew of St. Pigol, under whom the White Monastery reached its zenith). There are many more than these, and together the holy monks of Egypt, with their brothers in Syria, Palestine, and Mesopotamia who founded many other monasteries, are known as the "Desert Fathers". Some Christian traditions restrict this time period to a specific time ("The Age of the Desert Fathers" or whatever), such as 3rd to 6th century, but the Coptic Orthodox Church -- which is the traditional/national Church of Egypt and hence considers itself the rightful guard of this tradition -- does not do so; there are modern Desert Fathers, such as Abba ("Father") Matta El Meskeen (1919-2006) of the Monastery of St. Macarius, or Abba Lazarus El Antoni (currently living). There are also Desert Mothers, the female equivalents of Desert Fathers, both ancient (e.g., Amma Sarah, Amma Syncletica, etc.) and modern (Mother Irini of the Convent of St. Philopateer Mercurius in Old Cairo, 1936-2006).

*Do people here feel that living in this sort of community is still a valid path for those who feel suited to it?

Of course.

*Would you consider spending some or even all of your life in this sort of community?

I spent about two weeks at the Monastery of St. Shenouda the Archimandrite in upstate New York USA about six years ago as part of some academic research I was doing at the time to get my master's degree. I did really enjoy it, but I can't really honestly say I felt the call to dedicate my life to it. I have too many health and other personal problems to really be an asset to a monastery, I think. But that's okay. Our father, the departed Pope Shenouda III (r. 1971-2012) of thrice-blessed memory, once said that the ideal in our Church is "Every home a monastery, and every believer a monk", and we really do hold to that (as a Church; me personally less so, though I am trying more lately with the Holy Week upon us), for instance by praying the daily prayers every day from the prayer book called the Agpeya, which shapes our day around the seven daily prayers that were first established in the Egyptian monasteries many, many centuries ago. ("Agpeya" is a Coptic word...well, Copto-Arabic, from Coptic ϯⲁϫⲡ ti-agp "hour".)

Following this, we are encouraged to visit monasteries as regularly as we are able, and under normal circumstances (i.e., if there was no pandemic going on right now), there would be regular diocese-level activities organized around trips to monasteries and retreat centers around the world, so that we can stay connected to the life of the monks, which really is for us synonymous with the life of the Church itself. The monasteries are our heart, and the monks the circulating blood, you could say.
 
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I feel there is great value in monasticism. I'm a Buddhist so it's still quite a thing there so maybe that's why.
But focusing on Christianity... most monastics seem to be in the RC church, though there are Protestant monastics too.

*Do people here feel that living in this sort of community is still a valid path for those who feel suited to it?
*Would you consider spending some or even all of your life in this sort of community?

A few things to consider:

1. Jesus said “...I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one.(John 17:14). In the flow of John 17 one could argue Jesus is praying for all believers throughout all of time, including us. He desires for us to not be taken out of the world. Why?

2. Because “Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.” (James 1:27)

For me, I can understand the quiet prayerful life and I think I would really enjoy it. But for the majority of people we are to be as Jesus was, praying often (Luke 5:16) but loving practically, "In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”(Acts 20:35).
 
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I feel there is great value in monasticism. I'm a Buddhist so it's still quite a thing there so maybe that's why.
But focusing on Christianity... most monastics seem to be in the RC church, though there are Protestant monastics too.

*Do people here feel that living in this sort of community is still a valid path for those who feel suited to it?
*Would you consider spending some or even all of your life in this sort of community?

I do believe there continues to be value in the monastic life, it's not for everyone, and I think there is room enough for multiple expressions of the monastic life. From hermits to living in cloisters, as well as mendicants/itinerants.

It's not a more valuable, or better kind of life than the secular one. It's just a different expression of living.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I feel there is great value in monasticism. I'm a Buddhist so it's still quite a thing there so maybe that's why.
But focusing on Christianity... most monastics seem to be in the RC church, though there are Protestant monastics too.

*Do people here feel that living in this sort of community is still a valid path for those who feel suited to it?
*Would you consider spending some or even all of your life in this sort of community?
I'd like it better if the vows weren't for life - just renew them every few years. Then I think more people would try it, and move on when they are ready, after having learned some valuable lessons.
 
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I'd like it better if the vows weren't for life - just renew them every few years. Then I think more people would try it, and move on when they are ready, after having learned some valuable lessons.
I think it takes many years to get to the point of taking final vows, even then people do leave.
 
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I've just come across the notice sheet that was left for me in my room when I stayed at the monastery back in March. Gives you an idea of what to expect!

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I feel there is great value in monasticism. I'm a Buddhist so it's still quite a thing there so maybe that's why.
But focusing on Christianity... most monastics seem to be in the RC church, though there are Protestant monastics too.

A significant part of the Protestant Reformation was a difference of opinion on the value of monasticism.
 
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