Modern Theories of Creationism?

[SkyWriting]

It isn't, and never has been possible to prove that God exists (even though he does).

That would be true even if you could disprove Evolution. Almost certainly you can't, because almost certainly it is true.

Almost all people accept natural selection and the evolution of populations.

 

[TKICBS]

I am sorry that you believe the magnetic field proves the eart5h to be solid. I do not believe this is proof whenb weighed against all of the proof I have that it is hollow. Rather I am sure that the magnetic field is not clearly understood.
As for the positrion of the earths orbit and it's mass: the theory is based on a mass that is of a solid earth and then circular reasoning. I am sure that if you concidered all planets as hollow then you would see that the balance would be the same. As for the weight or mass of the sun, it is calculated with the same circular reasoning and therefore proves nothing.
I stand firm in my belief that the earth is hollow because I understand how it became this way and it explains far to many events shown in scripture. Namely: the bottomless pit, the beast Abaddon, the locust, the ice age, the flood as the bowels of the deep bust open as from a mothers womb, the water above and below, as well as the reason God has to slap the earth with an asteroid. Not to mention the stories of some finding it and entering into it while others can't find it. There are far to many absolutes to deny a hollow earth because of a couple theories, sorry.

 

[Assyrian]

I am sorry that you believe the magnetic field proves the eart5h to be solid. I do not believe this is proof whenb weighed against all of the proof I have that it is hollow. Rather I am sure that the magnetic field is not clearly understood.
As for the positrion of the earths orbit and it's mass: the theory is based on a mass that is of a solid earth and then circular reasoning. I am sure that if you concidered all planets as hollow then you would see that the balance would be the same. As for the weight or mass of the sun, it is calculated with the same circular reasoning and therefore proves nothing.
I stand firm in my belief that the earth is hollow because I understand how it became this way and it explains far to many events shown in scripture. Namely: the bottomless pit, the beast Abaddon, the locust, the ice age, the flood as the bowels of the deep bust open as from a mothers womb, the water above and below, as well as the reason God has to slap the earth with an asteroid. Not to mention the stories of some finding it and entering into it while others can't find it. There are far to many absolutes to deny a hollow earth because of a couple theories, sorry.

The mass of the earth was calculated by Henry Cavendish in 1798 by measuring the gravitational attraction between two lead balls in a torsion balance.


By calculation the force of attraction between two known masses, you can work out the mass of the earth by the force it exerts.

 

[TKICBS]

Okay, and what 2 "known" masses would you use to calculate the mass of the erath? Would it be the mass of the sun and moon, or Venus and the sun? And how would you calculate their mass, with the mass of the earth? If this is the method then that is what is called circular reasoning which makes no sense.
This is the same reasoning that evelutionists use to prove creation, in their minds, is wrong. They say that fossils are 100 million years old and because they know the fossils are 100 million years old then it is obvious that the layer of rock formations they are found in are 100 million years old. Then when asked how they know the fossils are 100 million years old they say because the rocks are 100 million years old.

If you use the Cavendish method using hollow spheres you will find the balance to be equal, I am sure.

However, how could the earth be solid after reading my whole understanding. There are far to may secrets revealed with a hollow earth for me to even entertain the thought of a solid earth anymore.

 

[lesliedellow]

They say that fossils are 100 million years old and because they know the fossils are 100 million years old then it is obvious that the layer of rock formations they are found in are 100 million years old. Then when asked how they know the fossils are 100 million years old they say because the rocks are 100 million years old.

They know the rocks are 100 million years old because they can use uranium lead dating to find that out.


The mass of the earth is 5,970,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons. That can be got by calculating how much mass there would have to be in order to deliver the observed acceleration due to gravity of 32 ft per sec per sec. The Cavendish experiment determined the value of the gravitational coupling constant, which is needed for that calculation.

 

[SkyWriting]

Okay, and what 2 "known" masses would you use to calculate the mass of the erath?

You may use any two masses that you can make yourself. You can even measure the gravity that will pull the two together. Then simply use math to determine the mass of the earth. That's the reason it has been determined that the earth has a molten iron core. Don't create another hollow ball theory until you have tested mass yourself.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...q-w7ih&sig=AHIEtbStoDh6Juwu91nVuuRBsG6TL-deHA

 

[SkyWriting]

The mass of the earth is 5,970,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons. That can be got by calculating how much mass there would have to be in order to deliver the observed acceleration due to gravity of 32 ft per sec per sec. The Cavendish experiment determined the value of the gravitational coupling constant, which is needed for that calculation.

The Cavendish experiment determined the value of the gravitational coupling constant

 

[TKICBS]

So do you guys believe Jesus is Lord?
Do you believe the bible is the word of God?
Do you believe the prophets?
Because the prophets prove the bible is the word of God and the savior of all who accept him.
How is it possible that the prophecies are so correct in relation to the events of this age, unless they are true?
If they are true then the earth must be hollow because there are just to many related scriptures that are understood clearly with a hollow earth that have to be only symbolic if the earth is solid.
I don't know the science that you use in your determining that the earth is solid. I am very sure that you are simply missing something in your calculations. I leave that to the experts in that area to reveal. For me to study this in depth enough to prove it would be to me counter productive.
There is very little time left in this age to be concerned about. I offer what I see and the proof of the word. But I offer the prophets as greater proof.

 

[lesliedellow]

If they are true then the earth must be hollow because there are just to many related scriptures that are understood clearly with a hollow earth that have to be only symbolic if the earth is solid.

Using the Bible to "prove" that the Earth is hollow must be a new one even for fundamentalists. What makes you think that the Bible is free from figurative language? Can you give me one good reason why it should be?

It is frankly ridiculous to try and use the Bible to answer questions it doesn't even address. It is a bit like going to a cookery book to find out how to fly a jumbo jet.

 

[TKICBS]

The idea of a hollow earth came to me as I was praying and fasting for understanding. One day I was in a book store and found the book called the hollo earth. After reading it I never gtave it much thought. About 3 weeks later I accidently watched the movie by Jules Vernes, Journey to the Center of the Earth. I still didn't give it much thought. Then while watchin TV I saw a commercial for some books about ancient Myths. At this point I began to wonder if the Lord was trying to show me something.
I was still fasting and praying at the time. I began to search scripture for any evidence that the earth could be hollow. I knew that if it were true then something of this magnitude must be shown in scripture.
Since that day 25 years ago the Lord has given me a very clear picture of a hollow earth and how it was made hollow from scratch. He has revealed the meaning of many scriptures that had no real meaning before and were interpretid in a hundred different ways, when they are literal with a hollow earth.
I explained most of these in the introductory in the thread called Creation, Revelation and the effect on prophecy in the creationism thread. If you have not read it yet I ask that you do so you can understand why I am so adamant about my belief. Or visit the website in my footer.
It is for no small reason that I am convinced of a hollow earth.
I am more than sure that the theory and proof of a solid earth will disapate in only a few years and less than 4 years today.

 

[lesliedellow]

The idea of a hollow earth came to me as I was praying and fasting for understanding. One day I was in a book store and found the book called the hollo earth. After reading it I never gtave it much thought. About 3 weeks later I accidently watched the movie by Jules Vernes, Journey to the Center of the Earth. I still didn't give it much thought. Then while watchin TV I saw a commercial for some books about ancient Myths. At this point I began to wonder if the Lord was trying to show me something.

Ancient myths and a couple of science fiction books are not a valid source of scientific information.

I am more than sure that the theory and proof of a solid earth will disapate in only a few years and less than 4 years today.

You truly live in never never land. That great prophet of our times, Harold Camping, had more than his fair share of humble pie to eat, and you are going to be joining him in 2017.

 

[Greg1234]

So do you guys believe Jesus is Lord?
Do you believe the bible is the word of God?
Do you believe the prophets?
Because the prophets prove the bible is the word of God and the savior of all who accept him.
How is it possible that the prophecies are so correct in relation to the events of this age, unless they are true?
If they are true then the earth must be hollow because there are just to many related scriptures that are understood clearly with a hollow earth that have to be only symbolic if the earth is solid.
I don't know the science that you use in your determining that the earth is solid. I am very sure that you are simply missing something in your calculations. I leave that to the experts in that area to reveal. For me to study this in depth enough to prove it would be to me counter productive.
There is very little time left in this age to be concerned about. I offer what I see and the proof of the word. But I offer the prophets as greater proof.

You referenced "Journey to the center of the Earth" without specifying if you are making a reference to the physical body of the Earth or the forces that rule that body. It's a bit like portraying the "center of man" as hollow or empty without specifying if you mean the man itself is empty, or the physical body is void of any life (provided that that's what you're mapping to the book you gave).

 

[Greg1234]

What makes you think that the Bible is free from figurative language? Can you give me one good reason why it should be?

And what is figurative language but the literal rendering of man's activity?

 

[lesliedellow]

And what is figurative language but the literal rendering of man's activity?

Do you think "stop pulling my leg," has the same meaning, whether it be interpreted literally or as a figure of speech?

 

[Greg1234]

Do you think "stop pulling my leg," has the same meaning, whether it be interpreted literally or as a figure of speech?

What is the subject?

 

[lesliedellow]

What is the subject?

Irrelevant. Under no circumstances would the literal and figurative meaning be the same.

 

[Greg1234]

Irrelevant. Under no circumstances would the literal and figurative meaning be the same.

Based on who or what the subject is, you will have either a literal or metaphorical perception.

 

[lesliedellow]

Based on who or what the subject is, you will have either a literal or metaphorical perception.

So? Fundamentalists insist upom a literal reading come what may.

 

[TKICBS]

re lesliedellow:
We will see who eats the hunble pie. All of the prophecies are coming true as they were written, The only place I might have to eat humble pie is the understanding of the hollow earth, but I highly doubt it. Did you read the post I mentioned? Or have you read page 11 on the link posted in my signature?

 

[TKICBS]

Greg1234:
The movie Journet to The Center of The Earth portrayed a physical hollow earth and I have been saying there is a physical hollow earth. Not sure where you are coming from.

By the way, where did Jesus of Nazareth say what is quoted in your signature?