I'm sure.
It's possible, but it's not looking great.
I guess we will see. I'll be honest, I wasn't sure Biden would win last time either...I never had a lot of confidence in him as a candidate. I'm just glad there were enough people who saw the disaster Trump was as president and voted against him. I hope they haven't forgotten in the interim...certainly, there is even more proof of that than there was before January 6th.
Ok...describe what sort of jobs illegals get. I don't mean in the cliche leftist "jobs nobody wants" way. Describe the actual jobs. Describe why nobody wants them.
The kind of jobs that, if you complain about the working conditions or the pay, you can be turned over to the authorities. For example.
Any working people who have any sort of retirement investments benefitted under Trump. It was a nosedive on like....week 1....and then historic highs the rest of the administration, until covid at least, but I can't blame that on him.
No, I agree you can't blame Trump for covid. But you can blame him for the response to it. Remember how he thought ingesting bleach would cure it?
It's literally destroying the working class with identity politics. The last time the left was pursuing class based politics was during Occupy Wall Street and Obama snuck in a healthcare band aid in his first term....then the corporate buyout of the left was finished and it's been identity politics turning working class people against each other since then. Just racism and sexism and anti-nationalism and anti-universalism since then.
Again, not here to defend the Democratic Party. I'm just saying I prefer them to the alternative.
You know, the party that prefers to try and outlaw drag queens and limit the health care choices for trans people instead of actually governing.
How about a fact based public education for children
You may want to check with Ron DeSantis about that. He's trying very hard to make sure the facts he doesn't like aren't part of that education.
and defending your basic civil rights?
Well, except for those who are queer, or trans, or wish to make their own reproductive health care decisions.
I don't know anyone who wants to do away with the police. Some wish they'd do a better job of actually policing...but that's hardly the same thing.
I thought you understood economics.
The debt doesn't magically disappear. What do you think happens when they cancel debt? The money was paid by a bank. Do you think the bank just doesn't get their money back lol?
Still unclear on your contention that this directly burdens those who don't incur debt.
That's pre-corporate buyout Democratic Party. Post buyout Democratic Party says "let's protect big pharma and help them sell these risky and largely unnecessary vaccines".
As I've said before, I'm not here to defend the Democratic Party...and I'm sure as heck not here to defend big pharma.
Thank you...I actually know how the single payer system works. I'm a little hesitant about what's happening in Canada though. I'd prefer the single payer market be competitive with the private insurer market so alternatives are available should our single payer go the way Canada's has and start suggesting medically assisted suicide for every stubbed toe....and you'd still need to close off the border and exclude the tens of millions of illegals from public healthcare unless you want to go the way of the UK.
Come up with a workable plan, and we'll talk.
But saying that a single-payer system isn't perfect isn't a good enough reason to retain what he currently have, which has many, many problems as it is. Chief among them, the fact that one major illness can utterly bankrupt entire families...while huge for-profit insurance companies make billions of dollars in profit every year.
Yeah but you're pretty far left, right?
Guess it depends on how you define it. I don't adhere to any specific criteria or follow any checklist. I prefer to make up my own mind about things.
You're the one voting for Biden should the opportunity arise. You tell me.
Biden's a better choice than Trump. Then again, if Trump were running against a cheese sandwich, I'd vote for the sandwich.
Can you think of one? I recall the last time I asked someone this and they said "John Fetterman"....no joke. I've seen others say Gavin Newsome and it's astonishing when you consider how he's literally destroyed his state's economy, destroyed law and order, become a haven for homelessness and drug abuse, and generally oversaw the near complete destruction of what used to be a prosperous state.
Don't know much about those guys, to be honest. I do like Corey Booker, or Sherrod Brown, and I'd also like to see Liz Warren take a stab at it...though, she has a few problems to overcome on that front. Still, I like what she stands for.
'Cuz he ain't Trump.
Why? Seriously. It can't be issues of corruption or classified docs....Biden realistically outpaces or at least is even with Trump on those.
Let's see....when Biden's office found he had classified documents in his possession, in storage, they returned them. When Trump was asked to return them, he lied, tried to hide them, and violated a subpoena that demanded he return them. And he showed them to people who didn't have clearance.
Yeah, the two aren't even in this case.
I'd like to call it even but we didn't have dozens upon dozens of working class federal agents blowing the whistle on Trump. I can only recall one or two under Trump. Trump had the FBI and DOJ investigating basically everything he'd ever done based on rumor....we have explicit evidence of Biden almost certainly taking bribes and all the whistleblowers agree there's little interest in any real investigation. If the FBI went after Biden the way they did Trump I don't think he'd finish his term....but perhaps keeping Harris out of the presidency is a good thing. She makes Fetterman almost sound coherent.
Hey, if there is evidence that Biden committed crimes, I'd have no problem with him being indicted when he's out of office.
So far as I've seen, that evidence is either imagined, or nonexistent....but I guess there's still time to keep working on it. Maybe they'll "find" another of Hunter's laptops.
You're linking an article from 2017 speculating about things we know about. No illegal ties to Russia were found. At worst, Trump and associates may have obstructed an investigation that shouldn't have happened.
I'm just saying...the ties exist. That's a fact.
Mueller said there were connections, but he couldn't make a legal case that they added to collusion.
I'm just saying that, given Trump's history, and his shady dealings, I find it difficult to give him the benefit of the doubt, that's all.
I don't think it would be good to elect Trump behind bars....
Beside the point. If he's found guilty, that's what he faces. Regardless of whether or not it would be good for the election.
No one, not even a candidate for president, is above the law.
because if he was elected he may gut the federal beauracracy and spend his entire term throwing people behind bars....not great for national morale. However, the one thing I can say is I know what I get with Trump. If he says he's going to stop the flow of illegal immigration....he's going to spend his efforts doing that, regardless of how many people on capitol hill try to stop him. If he says he doesn't want to get us involved in any new wars....we won't get in any new wars. There's some effort to deliver on his campaign platforms....as sparse and meager as they may be....
What do I get if I voted for Biden? Who knows. He's not writing those policies....he's not nominating those candidates for his cabinet or judiciary. He ran on a moderate position he didn't pursue. He's not writing those executive orders he signs. Who is running this administration? If I had to guess...some far left anti-Christian man hating anti-white racist whose goals seem to be, in order....
1. Partnering big tech to silence and defame anyone who disagrees with the party narrative.
2. Indoctrinate children in public schools with left wing propaganda regardless of truth.
3. Weaponizing federal agencies against political opposition and political speech.
4. Continue to erode civil rights and push racist DEI policies that are nothing more than a modern set of Jim Crow policies.
5. Continuing robbing the middle class and then offering them goodies and freebies they don't deliver on after elections.
Of course, that's just how it looks. I'll at least consider it possible these are just unintended consequences of rampant idiocy and bad policy.
Still not stumping for Biden.
-- A2SG, but your opinions are noted......
