Byfaithalone1
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. . . . what is your take on the images set out in your intial posts? Reconcilable? Irreconcilable? You've asked the hard questions. Now give us those wise answers.
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not much comfort for those being beat down, homeless, or losing life and limb..... Satan..... I suspect because of some of the answers that have been offered so far that people ignore what christians have to say.....
You've made no case for this leap - although you may have one and not stated it.Otherwise we're just left with a "boogeyman" God waiting to pounce, a "tyrant" that must be "appeased."
You've made no case for this leap - although you may have one and not stated it.
If you stub your toe, neither God as boogeyman nor satan as antagonist is necessary to explain what just happened. Although you are free to ascribe it to either one.
It depends on the worldview. I suspect that many things we assign to God or Satan are more attributable to our collective sowing and reaping. People will starve in Heaven too if they have no access to food.Do I need to make a case for the "leap?"
I have increasingly more questions than answers when it comes to sin.Avonia, how was sin entered into the world?
It depends on the worldview. I suspect that many things we assign to God or Satan are more attributable to our collective sowing and reaping. People will starve in Heaven too if they have no access to food.
I have increasingly more questions than answers when it comes to sin.
an explanation for this?
You've made no case for this leap - although you may have one and not stated it.
If you stub your toe, neither God as boogeyman nor satan as antagonist is necessary to explain what just happened. Although you are free to ascribe it to either one.
Aren't all those things you mentioned the same thing?
Well, they share qualities, but are not at all identical. For instance, a cosmology, like polarities existing below the line of creation, is highly systemic. Slamming the door in someone's face is highly discrete. But the latter doesn't necessarily stem from the former. You might have slammed the door to save their life - but they still have a broken nose, and may or may not ever know the root of the action.Aren't all those things you mentioned the same thing?
I am not atheist, nor am I blaming God... I submitted for your consideration things that christians say about God, and the reality that we see..... so how do we reconcile the two?You kinda sound like my atheist brother.... It's an old tactic to blame God for everything that goes wrong to try to discredit or deny Him.
Sin, suffering and death are all around us. The moment Adam fell, the consequences started to follow. You may argue about why God created a fallible planet, but that is not for us to judge, and impossible anyway.
God does sometimes intervene with what happens on earth, we have all seen it whether we are willing to admit it or not. Many times, I think, He does so by giving us strength to deal with the results of sin on earth. God of course sometimes uses bad things to good ends, but this is not always apparent.
We as Christians should do what we can to help ease the suffering and right the wrongs we find on this fallen world, until the day of His appearing. We have the promise of a better life, and should be sharing it with others. My 2 cents.
questions to stimulate conservation..... I will say that the things christians say about God are not necessarily true.... . . . what is your take on the images set out in your intial posts? Reconcilable? Irreconcilable? You've asked the hard questions. Now give us those wise answers.
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I am not atheist, nor am I blaming God... I submitted for your consideration things that christians say about God, and the reality that we see..... so how do we reconcile the two?
Avonia, how was sin entered into the world?
So do you think then that all our experience bes purely subjective in this regard? Whether God protects us or not?What then is the point of saying that God cares, God will take care of you, that God watches over you when that is not the case? If God does not intervene, then why pray for protection or deliverance from harm when that may not happen? Your last point suggests then that for people to look forward to (and appreciate) heaven they must experience hell here and now?
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