We're talking about this link that you posted, right? My question is, do you understand that the results they describe are to be expected from evolution? That is, that the bacterium's cytochrome C should show about the same divergence from all the species they compared it to? The authors of that web page obviously think evolution predicts something else, but I think they are wrong. What do you think evolution predicts about these divergences? Please be specific. If they should all be the same, why did you post the link? If they should be different, explain why they should be different.
First off let's examine the predicate of the report : All bolding mine.
Cytochrome divergenceWhile it is one thing to argue the toss about the veracityof evolution on morphological grounds, an analysis of variations between proteins common to all species at least offers a quantitative basis against which the claims of neo-Darwinism can be evaluated - the anchor of mathematical objectivity.
One early discovery was that differences at the morphological level of a species are matched by variations in the amino acid sequences of common proteins. Percentage differences in cytochrome and haemoglobin for example increase with morphological distance. These differences are also consistent - all major vertebrate classes can be classfied on the basis of their protein sequences.
If we were to examine protein sequences from species related on the basis of standard evolutionary (morphological) assumptions we would expect to observe corresponding protein variation lending support to the hypothesis of lineal descent.
Here is an extract from the Dayhoff Atlas of Protein Structure and Function showing the molecular distance between the cytochrome C2 of the bacteria rhodospirillum rubrum and various eucaryotic chytochromes:
Before we look at any specifics I would like to say the author of this report is spot on with his logical presentation of divergence of speciational variations in the proteins of cytochrome C . So let's look at some specifics on the report that I think are significant.
Here is another extract giving cyclostome C sequence percentage differences between carp and selected terrestial vertebrates:
% diffCarp - fish13
13
14
13
13Horse - mammal
Rabbit - mammal
Chicken - bird
Turtle - reptile
Bullfrog - amphibian
And the divergence between the haemoglobin of a snail and selected vertebrate species:
% diffGastropod mollusk
Lamprey - cyclostome
Carp - fish
Frog - amphibian
Chicken - bird
Kangaroo - marsupial
In this box top table we see a percentage of only 13 percent between a carp and a horse, rabbit or chicken all of which are homotherms with massive differences in morphologies. This is a case that evolution would not predict.
God Bless
Jim Larmore
p.s. on edit: I copied and pasted from the website and the software here did not copy it the same way the table was laid out, so the information is not laid out properly. Please go to the site to examine them for clarity. Sorry
Jim Larmore
p.s. on edit: I copied and pasted from the website and the software here did not copy it the same way the table was laid out, so the information is not laid out properly. Please go to the site to examine them for clarity. Sorry
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