Alright. I've read through the thread and I hesitate to even post in here. There seems to be an overabundance of bigotry towards certain people, which I have no tolerance for and is unjustifiable. If someone doesn't agree with you, then retort. If you reply and they keep sticking to the same thing without substance or premises that warrant the same conclusion, then just leave them alone. Don't go in here patronizing people, then expect to be treated with the utmost respect yourself. There are very intelligent arguments on both sides of an issue, but it serves no purpose to have a conversation about fossils and then just start making fun of people on a large scale who don't agree with you.
Well I hope to come in here and have a civilized discussion, but due to my position, I don't know how long it will take before I am lead into an attack of some sort, and my basic view on that is nothing short of bigotry, that I have to "watch what I say" if I don't want to be patronized. This is unfortunate, because there are lots of people with varying views on things from all corners who have very insightful, intelligent, and logical interpretations of epistemological claims, I am one of them, and the patronizing will no doubt prevent certain people from even posting in this thread. I guess I'm going out on all kinds of limbs.
Let me explain myself in order to overcome (hoplefully) any kind of bigot-like foundationless accusations that may come my way or to those like me. I, at 26, hold some views of creation theory. I don't like the terms accociated with religion or a religious interpretation of science. I've loved science sinse I was a little kid. I had a science and chemestry lab in my basement when I was 12, and I have always been facinated with cosmology sinse childhood. My parents, though believing in God, were strongly against anything religious. They are agnostic, and so is my 1 brother. I went through my whole life as an agnostic and I believed in, and understood the principals of evolution sinse I was 12.
I consider myself a Christian now, and I believe I went about it in the right way. I didn't read the Bible for the first time untill age 23. I was always agnostic, being raised by my familty to dislike church. I was agnostic in the sense that I believed in God, but I didn't know if he was really there, and there were alot of contradictions in the Bible.
I was "right brained" as a child, and unfortunetely I had 7 different learning disabilities as a child, and physical. I was forced to go to special ed classes (3 at the same time) and I couldn't retain information, I couldn't tell time if the school's life depended on it, I couldn't tell the difference between 10 and 15 feet, I coulnd't wright, and I had devastating communication skills, and I couldn't do anything physical, I basically couldn't do anything other than be nice. I was what un PC people would call "retarted" with no hope of ever really getting better.
It all went away. Long story that's too much to go into detail right now.
As I delt with the issues, I learned ways to get around them and the left side of my brain started getting stronger and stronger. Untill one day I had no disabilities whatsoever, and yet, my mind, body, and mental capacity kept on growing. The right side of my brain is still the same, and today, I am both "right" and "left" "brained". I can look at things from two completely different perspectives and understand them both. I can do the "spinning girl" test and control which direction she spins using my mind, at will, whenever I want.
Today, I am a certified Personal Trainer, I'm a bodybuilder, I'm a martial artists, I can swing nunchucks while blindfolded, I have a 160 IQ, I have a fantastic long term memory that much of which has "come back" ( I remember when I was 1 years old, clear as day). I was able to do twice the work in college in half the time, despite working full time. I graduated from a 6 month personal training program at #1 in the class, in only 6 weeks.
Yes, I am crazy and eccentric, but the moral of the story is this: I will not tolerate being called stupid. Especially just because I hold to some principals of creation theory. It's best to have back and forth conversation with questions, as opposed to assuming I mean something when I don't and asking how I could mean that.
Anyway, I love having these conversations, but only when they are in good spirit, not an "us vs them" kind of thing.
In this thread I'm going to just try and stay on topic, which is Ida, or fossils in general.
--- nice to meet you!
ersonally, I love it when people call me stupid or crazy; and for being a martial artist, you should realize that they're only creating a blind spot that you can use to your advantage.
