Miss. prom canceled after lesbian's date request

[LightHorseman]

Not really, because sexual preference is different from having sex.

And the woman in question is over 18 anyway

 

[lawtonfogle]

I'd think it's obvious, one needs to be of legal age of consent to complain. IOW, they don't have the legal rights they are complaining they are being discriminated against.

Contrary to popular belief, children do have rights.

Also, this girl wants to break the dress code. Does that mean anyone can show up to a prom in a Chicken Suit as a freedom of expression? I don't think so. You either go with the dress code when you pay your money, or you don't go.

Depends upon how reasonable a dress code is.

 

[lawtonfogle]

I just re-read the article. I don't see how cancelling a prom that effects everybody is any form of discrimination.

It could just a mere coincidence.

That is why I said she will have to prove that prom was canceled because of her request for the judge to even consider this case.

 

[super animator]

But they canceled it because of the lesbian student. Just because the cancellation affects everybody doesn't mean that the cancellation itself isn't a form of discrimination. After all, if that student hadn't been a lesbian, they wouldn't have canceled the prom at all.

BTW, it's "consequence," not "conwesiqents."

Well according to the court of law "everyone is innocent until proven guilty". I do not think that the cancellation of a prom after a gay students' petition necessary means they're discrimination against her. It could be other reasons.
Besides they did make the statement "Due to the distractions to the educational process caused by recent events, the Itawamba County School District has decided to not host a prom at Itawamba Agricultural High School this year," Unless someone prove that these distractions are from lesbians. Until then I'm neutral.

 

[lawtonfogle]

If your love "depends on the situation," then it's not Christ-like love at all. Christ doesn't love people "depending on the situation," he loves everyone no matter what. So why are you so unwilling to love people no matter what?


You're talking about a non-consensual relationship. Homosexual relationships are consensual. Think up a better analogy.

Devil's advocate:
Lets say they kept it strictly romantic but non-sexual. There is no 'age of consent' to consent to being romantically involved.

You're saying that I'm the incendiary one here when you just compared homosexuals to pedophiles? I think you'd better take the beam out of your own eye before you comment on the speck of sawdust in my eye.

What is wrong with comparing them? I understand problems comparing homosexuals to child molesters, and I realize most people can't tell the difference between a pedophile and a child molester, but really...

I know of a case (in a separate country) where a man married a 12 year old. Last I checked, they are still both happily married and both of them think it was a good idea. Granted, they did have to convince the court that she was capable enough to marry, so this is probably a very extreme case.

Oh, so it's loving to hate a part of a person that they didn't even choose and they can't even change? Do you think it's loving as well to hate black skin or blue eyes? What about birth defects, should we hate those as well? I mean, what's the difference between hating those things and hating a person's sexual orientation? There is no difference, which is why so many people (like me) think it's ludicrous to hate someone's sexual orientation.

And what if pedophilia is not a choice but a sexual preference you are born with? (Once again, please note pedophilia is not child molestation. By all means, dislike child molesters to your heart's content.)

 

[Pinhead]

Well according to the court of law "everyone is indecent until proven guilty". I do not think that the cancellation of a prom after gay student petition necessary means they're discrimination against her. It could be other reasons.
Besides they did make the statement "Due to the distractions to the educational process caused by recent events, the Itawamba County School District has decided to not host a prom at Itawamba Agricultural High School this year," Unless someone prove that these distractions are from lesbians. Until then I'm neutral.

The distraction would be... next year a guy wants to wear a prom dress because the "gay chick wore a tux."

Really. People have gotten so ridiculous with their demands these day. I'd cancel it , too.
Let school be about learning. Yeah, I know. Prom is a tradition.. but then again... it is tradition that is being challenged.

 

[lawtonfogle]

The distraction would be... next year a guy wants to wear a prom dress because the "gay chick wore a tux."

Really. People have gotten so ridiculous with their demands these day. I'd cancel it , too.
Let school be about learning. Yeah, I know. Prom is a tradition.. but then again... it is tradition that is being challenged.

My roommate (I lived in a dormitory high school my last two years) wore a dress to the Winter Formal. Didn't really cause a stir, then again our school didn't have many people who would pick on him for something like that. In fact, we actually had a cross dressing day for fun (since you could go back to your dorm after morning class, dress up, have people vote, and get back into normal dress before afternoon classes began).

 

[Pinhead]

If your love "depends on the situation," then it's not Christ-like love at all. Christ doesn't love people "depending on the situation," he loves everyone no matter what. So why are you so unwilling to love people no matter what?

Learn what the BIBLICAL DEFINITION of love is and learn scripture before you decide to debate me on it. You will make a fool out of yourself, otherwise.

You're talking about a non-consensual relationship. Homosexual relationships are consensual. Think up a better analogy.

You assumed (incorrectly) I was speaking of a non-consensual relationship. A 17 year old cannot love a 40 year old?

You're saying that I'm the incendiary one here when you just compared homosexuals to pedophiles? I think you'd better take the beam out of your own eye before you comment on the speck of sawdust in my eye.

Again- your words- not mine. Why is a consensual relationship between a 17 year old and a 40 year old pedophilia?

Oh, so it's loving to hate a part of a person that they didn't even choose and they can't even change? Do you think it's loving as well to hate black skin or blue eyes? What about birth defects, should we hate those as well? I mean, what's the difference between hating those things and hating a person's sexual orientation? There is no difference, which is why so many people (like me) think it's ludicrous to hate someone's sexual orientation.

It is loving to reject sinful nature. I am sorry if that is so hard for you to understand. If someone is doing something that separates them from the will of God it is not loving to just sit back and say, "Oh, well. It makes them happy."
Skin color and eye color are not sinful in nature, nor are birth defects. A Christian will reject a heterosexual relationship between an atheist and a Christian or any other destructive relationship just as much as a homosexual relation. If the relationship is not in line with the WILL OF GOD then it is rejected.
Unless God has changed on the whole abomination thing- He has NOT- then Christians (at least those who adhere to scripture) will reject homosexual behavior... it doesn't really matter if the rest of the world changes it's collective mind.

 

[explodingboy]

The distraction would be... next year a guy wants to wear a prom dress because the "gay chick wore a tux."

Really. People have gotten so ridiculous with their demands these day. I'd cancel it , too.
Let school be about learning. Yeah, I know. Prom is a tradition.. but then again... it is tradition that is being challenged.

huh, I don't see anything ridiculous about asking to wear a suit rather than dress to the prom, It's got nothing to with being a Lesbian, there is any number of valid excuses to prefer a Tux to a dress. If anything the only side being ridiculous is the side that sees this as an appropriate excuse to punish everyone.

 

[Pinhead]

My roommate (I lived in a dormitory high school my last two years) wore a dress to the Winter Formal. Didn't really cause a stir, then again our school didn't have many people who would pick on him for something like that. In fact, we actually had a cross dressing day for fun (since you could go back to your dorm after morning class, dress up, have people vote, and get back into normal dress before afternoon classes began).

What do you mean normal dress?

 

[super animator]

Learn what the BIBLICAL DEFINITION of love is and learn scripture before you decide to debate me on it. You will make a fool out of yourself, otherwise.

You assumed (incorrectly) I was speaking of a non-consensual relationship. A 17 year old cannot love a 40 year old?



Again- your words- not mine. Why is a consensual relationship between a 17 year old and a 40 year old pedophilia?



It is loving to reject sinful nature. I am sorry if that is so hard for you to understand. If someone is doing something that separates them from the will of God it is not loving to just sit back and say, "Oh, well. It makes them happy."
Skin color and eye color are not sinful in nature, nor are birth defects. A Christian will reject a heterosexual relationship between an atheist and a Christian or any other destructive relationship just as much as a homosexual relation. If the relationship is not in line with the WILL OF GOD then it is rejected.
Unless God has changed on the whole abomination thing- He has NOT- then Christians (at least those who adhere to scripture) will reject homosexual behavior... it doesn't really matter if the rest of the world changes it's collective mind.

You do realize that some people who call themselves Christians support gay marrage right?

 

[Pinhead]

huh, I don't see anything ridiculous about asking to wear a suit rather than dress to the prom, It's got nothing to with being a Lesbian, there is any number of valid excuses to prefer a Tux to a dress. If anything the only side being ridiculous is the side that sees this as an appropriate excuse to punish everyone.

Like I said, they wanted to challenge tradition- then get upset when the tradition is done away with all together.

 

[Pinhead]

You do realize that some people who call themselves Christians support gay marrage right?

Guess I have to quote myself to drive home a point:

then Christians (at least those who adhere to scripture) will reject homosexual behavior

Calling oneself a Christian and BEING a Christian are two different things.

 

[super animator]

Guess I have to quote myself to drive home a point:

then Christians (at least those who adhere to scripture) will reject homosexual behavior

You'll be surprise that some christians here "who adhere to scripture" support gay marrage. Look around in the christan Philosophy & Ethics if you don't believe me.

 

[BlackAndy]

You'll be surprise that some christians here "who adhere to scripture" support gay marrage. Look around in the christan Philosophy & Ethics if you don't believe me.

Not possible.

 

[LightHorseman]

Guess I have to quote myself to drive home a point:

then Christians (at least those who adhere to scripture) will reject homosexual behavior

Calling oneself a Christian and BEING a Christian are two different things.

Those who adhere to YOUR INTERPRETATION of scripture.

 

[BlackAndy]

Those who adhere to YOUR INTERPRETATION of scripture.

When TRUTH comes into play the old argument of interpretation always rears it head.

Show me where in the New Testament sexual immorality has been misinterpreted.

 

[LightHorseman]

Not possible.

*raises hand* I'm a Christian, I support same sex marriage.

 

[LightHorseman]

When TRUTH comes into play the old argument of interpretation always rears it head.

Show me where in the New Testament sexual immorality has been misinterpreted.

Anywhere you think the new testament condemns homosexuality, I'm pretty sure you're using a flawed translation, or taking it out of context.

 

[AirPo]

When TRUTH comes into play the old argument of interpretation always rears it head.

Show me where in the New Testament sexual immorality has been misinterpreted.

Well that's because TRUTH is your interpertation of what is true.