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You do realize, CaptainNemo, why this is not a strong argument?
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Bias can cloud how you achieve a conclusion. For examples: the Scottsboro Boys were nine young men wrongfully convicted of a rape they did not commit. But because the justice system was biased against their skin color they were executed. Scottsboro Boys - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bias can cloud how you achieve a conclusion. For examples: the Scottsboro Boys were nine young men wrongfully convicted of a rape they did not commit. But because the justice system was biased against their skin color they were executed. Scottsboro Boys - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You do realize, CaptainNemo, why this is not a strong argument?
Actually, there appears to be a few cases that are considered to state exactly that -- that choice of date is a form of freedom of expression. Rather than make assumptions by what non-lawyers make about the case and commenting on them, I would encourage you to read the complaint that was filed in court and comment on that. Also, if you look at the attachments, the original letter to the school district is included which gives the relevant case law concerning the right to bring a same-gendered date.
Further, it is interesting to note in the complaint that the written dress code of the school has no language that would suggest a female student cannot wear a tux to the prom.
Actually, there appears to be a few cases that are considered to state exactly that -- that choice of date is a form of freedom of expression. Rather than make assumptions by what non-lawyers make about the case and commenting on them, I would encourage you to read the complaint that was filed in court and comment on that. Also, if you look at the attachments, the original letter to the school district is included which gives the relevant case law concerning the right to bring a same-gendered date.
Further, it is interesting to note in the complaint that the written dress code of the school has no language that would suggest a female student cannot wear a tux to the prom.
Because the God Emperor of Mankind wills it not to be?
thanks for posting that link, Maren.
Seems to me they're going to have a hard time proving that the District canceled the event to avoid any constitutional obligations to the plaintiff. Prom isn't a constitutional right. It's a privilege and I know several people who were denied going to the prom because of academic standing or other factors.
Them telling her she couldn't wear a tux to the prom was just rather stupid. I think a tux is far more acceptable than some of the stuff I've seen at proms. I have a picture in my photobucket album of a pregnant teen at her prom in a dress that had the belly area cut out. Seriously. Nothing wrong with a tux. They're also cheaper than prom dresses.
I'm going to try to follow this case. I'm interested in the outcome, not because it will change anything our school is doing, but because the legal portions of the case are intriguing.
Well, the fact the school canceled the whole prom is important as well. If the Plaintiff can prove it was closed because of the school boards opinion of her relationship, then she ahas a case. If she cannot, then there is little but circumstantial evidence, however likely it may be.
LOL...no...it is not a strong argument because the link you provided presumes its own conclusion, which makes the argument circular, i.e. begs the question.
Furthermore, while a bias may explain why someone reached a particular conclusion, it does not show the conclusion to be false, an important point to remember and a point your link does not contest.
But the false conclusion was reached only due to bias, in this case, racism. If you can find a record of this case showing the convicted were actually guilty, then please feel free to post it.
Also making a fuss that someone can't wear a tux is equal stupid. My son was going to a church event where the man require all boys going to wear a tie. My son thought it was stupid which I agree but told him it was just as stupid making a big deal over having to wear a tie. So even though I'm not crazy about tie I will wear one if required. Often the best choice is keeping the peace.Them telling her she couldn't wear a tux to the prom was just rather stupid. I think a tux is far more acceptable than some of the stuff I've seen at proms. I have a picture in my photobucket album of a pregnant teen at her prom in a dress that had the belly area cut out. Seriously. Nothing wrong with a tux. They're also cheaper than prom dresses.
but her argument is that they closed it to avoid their constitutional obligation to her.
For all we know, they had been planning to cancel it anyway and the timing just sucked.
What false conclusion? Second, you are assuming, along with the source of your link, A.) bias was involved and B.) bias was the result of the outcome. It does not make sense to assume such things.
Furthermore, it appears having a defense counsel not familiar with criminal law, and similarly incapable of preparing an adequate defense, explains the outcome as opposed to bias. From the link you provided, "and the defense attorneys had little experience in criminal law and no time to prepare their cases.
This is not a good example to make your point.
Bias can cloud how you achieve a conclusion. For examples: the Scottsboro Boys were nine young men wrongfully convicted of a rape they did not commit. But because the justice system was biased against their skin color they were executed. Scottsboro Boys - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ah, but here's the rub. Assuming the young men were innocent, the verdict was not wrong because of a bias - extant or not. Rather, the verdict would be wrong because of a lack of evidence. That bias exists in a given situation is, at most, a pertinent contextual fact. Bias itself, however, does not render a conclusion true or false.
Once again, all this Christian pro and con is very interesting... but of what possible relevence is it to the way a public school conducts itself and the standards to which it holds its students?
I commend your attitude towards the secular.somebody somewhere along the way asked why some Christians believe homosexuality is wrong.
The school is a public school and is not beholden to any Christian morals. But it does have its own set of rules. Unfortunately for this girl, the rules were rather specific that her date had to be of the opposite sex. It would appear, though, that she went about this appropriately, trying to challenge the rule in a non-confrontational manner.
I don't know how much authority the school itself has or what the District can decide, but it seems to me that the school should've just quietly abolished the opposite sex date rule and let the girl wear a tux to the prom. I assume that most people in the school are aware that she is a lesbian and that she has a girlfriend - I assume that because if it wasn't the case, would the girl really be so adamant about bringing her to the prom? I don't think too many people would've objected to two girls coming to the prom together. As I pointed out, we had girls who came to the proms together, and our whole softball team wore tuxes. I went to my junior prom with one of my best friends, who was a girl.
Unfortunately, the DADT aspect of this seems like it would've been the most hassle-free way to deal with it. The girl could've just shown up at prom with her date and wearing a tux. I have to wonder if there would've been any flap.
You can toy with the words all you want- you KNOW what is being said. It is obvious (to anyone who isn't being willfully ignorant of the facts, that is.)
I commend your attitude towards the secular.
I don't know for certain, but if I had to speculate, thinking back to my school formal days, when one bought tickets, you had to give the name of the people who would be attending on the given tickets, supposed to help stop party crashers showing up. If this school had a similar system, the "asking permission" aspect may have been no more than the girls trying to buy tickets in their name. But that is pure speculation on my part.
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