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The Greeks hats are much better and more fitting, not pretentious as the Romans hats. IMHO
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The Greeks hats are much better and more fitting, not pretentious as the Romans hats. IMHO
Kinda hard to experience it for those who think their good works are the overriding factor in their salvation.
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The Greeks hats are much better and more fitting, not pretentious as the Romans hats. IMHO
Yeah man!
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1 John 5:13
13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
Do you place your opinion over that of Divine Scripture above?
13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
Do you place your opinion over that of Divine Scripture above?
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Define OSAS.
I believe in the Preservation of the saints, as Hebrews says, "What Christ has started in you, He will complete to the end."
But I suspect that you have a confused idea of what the Biblical doctrine of Preservation of the saints actually teaches.
So, go here and learn so you will not continue to build a strawman to attack
www.monergism.com
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Hebrews 3:12-14 (New International Version)
12See to it, brothers, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. 13But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called Today, so that none of you may be hardened by sin's deceitfulness. 14We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.
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Pressing on Toward the Goal
12Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.
15All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you. 16Only let us live up to what we have already attained.
12Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.
15All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you. 16Only let us live up to what we have already attained.
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John 21:25 - Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.
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9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
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1 John 5:13
13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
Tell us what that means.
While at it, tell us what the following means too;
1 John 1;
Tell us what that means.
13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
Tell us what that means.
While at it, tell us what the following means too;
1 John 1;
Tell us what that means.
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Like I said, Bible Christians:
Q: Many Protestants believe we are saved by Faith Alone and they say Catholic believe they can “work” their way into Heaven. How do you answer that?
A: First of all, I ask them to show me where in the Catechism, the official teaching of the Catholic Church, does it teach that we can “work” our way into Heaven? They can’t, because it doesn’t. The Catholic Church does not now, nor has it ever, taught a doctrine of salvation by works...that we can “work” our way into Heaven.
Second, I ask them to show me where in the Bible does it teach that we are saved by “faith alone.” They can’t, because it doesn’t. The only place in all of Scripture where the phrase “Faith Alone” appears, is in James...James 2:24, where it says that we are not...not...justified (or saved) by faith alone.
So, one of the two main pillars of Protestantism...the doctrine of salvation by faith alone...not only doesn’t appear in the Bible, but the Bible actually says the exact opposite - that we are not saved by faith alone
Third, I ask them that if works have nothing to do with our salvation...then how come every passage in the N.T. that I know of that talks about judgment says we will be judged by our works, not by whether or not we have faith alone? We see this in Rom 2, Matthew 15 and 16, 1 Ptr 1, Rev 20 and 22, 2 Cor 5, and many, many more verses.
Fourth, I ask them that if we are saved by faith alone, why does 1 Cor 13:13 say that love is greater than faith? Shouldn’t it be the other way around?
As Catholics we believe that we are saved by God’s grace alone. We can do nothing, apart from God’s grace, to receive the free gift of salvation. We also believe, however, that we have to respond to God’s grace. Protestants believe that, too. However, many Protestants believe that the only response necessary is an act of faith; whereas, Catholics believe a response of faith and works is necessary...or, as the Bible puts it in Galatians 5:6, “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumsion is of any avail, but faith working through love...faith working through love...just as the Church teaches.
http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/
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Yeah and that does NOT mean that everything someone claims was handed down by oral tradition actually was terry.
As a matter of fact, something you should become acquianted with was the controversy that arose early on, in the 2nd century over the timing of the Paschal Fast, with both sides in the controversy claiming an oral transmission of Apostolic Tradition as their basis for the dates they held to, and were in direct opposition and contradiction.
You will be surprised to learn terry, that there were a lot of controversies and disputes that arose with each side claiming that oral transmission from the Apostles and were directly in opposition to each other just as in the Paschal Fast controversy.
You see terry, when learning actual Church history, without the lens of a forced Roman paradigm onto them where they don't exist, the claims of Rome are found to be like clouds without rain.
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I see, rather than actually learning what we really believe, you prefer your caricature and strawman, then complain that Protestants don't learn what you believe. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
No, it is what is taught by Scripture, the Apostolic Tradition recorded and preserved in the NT Scriptures, as well as Augustine, Ambrose, and a great many ECFs, and received by the Reformers.
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