Miracles?

[Canadian75]

I believe that miracles still happen. But, why is it that the only miracles we hear of happen in the Roman Catholic Church? You hear about exorcisms, apparitions, eucharistic miracles, healings, etc.

What about non-RC churches? Are there evidences of miracles happening there? Does anyone here deny the existence of post-biblical miracles? Any thoughts on the topic of miracles?


Peace.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

Don't you watch Benny Hinn?

 

[livingproofGM]

Don't mean to point fingers, but I thought this article was interesting :
http://www.thedoormagazine.com/theheretic.html

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Don't mean to point fingers, but I thought this article was interesting :
http://www.thedoormagazine.com/theheretic.html

Very.

 

[Canadian75]

Benny Hinn....in 500 years of protestantism that is the only significant miraculous event in non-Catholic Christianity? Odd. With all of the miraculous events in non-christian religions I'm surprised I can find almost nothing in Christianity outside of the RCC. Any thoughts?


Peace.

 

[livingproofGM]

Further proof that the Catholic Church is the true Church Christ instituted, not 5 million spin-offs.

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Benny Hinn....in 500 years of protestantism that is the only significant miraculous event in non-Catholic Christianity? Odd.

Certainly not. There are many supposed miracles in many different denominations.

With all of the miraculous events in non-christian religions I'm surprised I can find almost nothing in Christianity outside of the RCC. Any thoughts?

Given that Catholicism is larger than any denomination, it wouldn't surprise me if more supposed miracles occured within the Catholic Church. However, I think there are probably (proportionally) just as many supposed miracles in denominations.

If I may offer my opinion as to why more actual miracles may occur within Catholicism...

The Sacraments, especially the Eucharist, are regularly available for Catholics. These are certain and wonderful means of receiving Grace from God. They are instrumental in bringing Catholics closer to God--i.e. in helping them grow in holiness.

Furthermore, there are a great number of holy Saints in heaven to guide us by their examples on earth and by their intercession. There are many greater teachers, defenders and practicers of the Holy Catholic Faith who offer wisdom and insight into the Faith and how to live It.

There are a great number of beautiful and helpful devotions and prayers--such as the Rosary, the Divine Mercy Chaplet, Scapulars, devotion to the Sacred Heart, lexio divina, the Divine Office, the Angelus, devotion to the Immaculate Heart, the Blessed Infant of Prague, the Holy Face of Christ, devotion to the Saints and many more.

There is a real and strong unity between all Catholics throughout the world, and a unity with those in heaven and those in purgatory. We are never alone, but are always helped and guided by our brothers and sisters in Christ.

All of these things can help to bring people closer to God, to make them grow in holiness. When you become so close to God, it is little wonder that you are better disposed to receive an apparition or private revelation or miracle from God.

That is not to say that He does not reveal Himself to the sinful as well as the righteous...I have no doubt that He has brought about miracles for those who love Him and those who have not yet come to love Him.

Finally, and probably most importantly, I for one believe that the Catholic Church is the true Church founded by Christ. God blesses His Church with many gifts and miracles to stregthen, provide, guide and give His Grace. Christ loves His Bride deeply, and always cares for Her and watches over Her.

This is not to say that real miracles do not occur outside of Catholicism...they may well do.

Just my £0.02.

 

[livingproofGM]

That was wonderfully written. And miracles occur outside of the Church everyday. I believe someone coming to Christ is a miracle in itself, but you're right, most of the visual and recorded miracled come through the Church.

 

[zaire]

I believe that miracles still happen. But, why is it that the only miracles we hear of happen in the Roman Catholic Church? You hear about exorcisms, apparitions, eucharistic miracles, healings, etc.

What about non-RC churches? Are there evidences of miracles happening there? Does anyone here deny the existence of post-biblical miracles? Any thoughts on the topic of miracles?


Peace.

I am the opposite to you. I have never heard of a miracle in the RC church.

But know of lots of miracles that have happened to Christians.

 

[livingproofGM]

I am the opposite to you. I have never heard of a miracle in the RC church.

But know of lots of miracles that have happened to Christians.

Christians? That's what Catholics are. Padre Pio is a good example of a miracle, as are the people he healed through the power of Christ. http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/a3.html <---miracles of the body and blood of Christ

 

[Canadian75]

And miracles occur outside of the Church everyday.

I agree, but why do we hear so much about miracles in the RCC (eucharistic miracles, marian apparitions, exorcisms, etc.) but rarely do we ever hear of other miracles not associated with the Roman Catholic denomination? Does anyone have famous examples or websites about Christian miracles in general or miracles not associated with non-RC Christians specifically?


Peace.

 

[AllTalkNoAction]

God's church has not changed since he set it up in Acts. All members receive the infilling of His Spirit with the miraculous sign of speaking in tongues - Acts 2v4, 33, 39; 10v44-48 . . .

Healings of all manner of diseases, provision, protection and God's attributes follow these people, young and old, rich & poor, all nations:-

http://www.trf.org.au/healing.asp

 

[Lotar]

I believe that miracles still happen. But, why is it that the only miracles we hear of happen in the Roman Catholic Church? You hear about exorcisms, apparitions, eucharistic miracles, healings, etc.

What about non-RC churches? Are there evidences of miracles happening there? Does anyone here deny the existence of post-biblical miracles? Any thoughts on the topic of miracles?


Peace.

An interesting miracle that just recently happened:
The priest from our church in New Orleans recieved what he percieved to be a cheap and not to attractive icon of the Theotokos as a gift. Not wanting to offend or place it in his house, he slipped it into the parish bookstore. Not too long later, it was his anniversary and he recieved as a gift, the same exact icon he had put in the bookstore, only now in a beautiful ornate frame. Feeling stuck with it, he took it home.

It was just after this that the evacuation of the city began. Before the priest placed the icon in safetly with his others, in the closet, he asked the Mother of God to protect his house.

Yesterday, he went to the rectory, and though the surounding area was devistated, it had suffered no damage at all.

On that note, even though the church was in a part of town that was under 8 feet of water, it did not flood, and the only damage was a hole in the dome.



I think it's just the Protestants that don't have any real miracles to speak of.

 

[is54]

Okay, I thought I might throw sth in. I guess you all know that we aren't to measure somebody or a group of ppl according to the miracles that happen among them...

However, I know of both, miracles inside and outside of the Catholic C. as well as the Protestant C.s (yes, there's an "outside" of both at once).
However, that doesn't indicate the true church or even true believers. Why should it? Never heard of any pagan miracle healers? Even some muslims believe in it and could tell you stories...

So, why fight about who has more and greater miracles? If they say they believe in miracles, then they have them. That's the conclusion you'll draw when you outstudied mankind.

However, I have a great link to offer to you. No reading, just watching.
>>>click me<<<

Just in case you don't want to check out that much, I highly recommend these two:
1. Glory cloud (carefully listen to the very beginning)
2. Watch a lame man walking

So, you can come and tell me how faked that stuff is, but, then don't tell me what happens in your church and stop discussing...
Or, you may be touched by what God is doing and rejoice in it. What do you care if they are RC or whatever when God doesn't seem to care as much as y'all do?

That were my € 0.02, I hope you liked them...

 

[livingproofGM]

Okay, I thought I might throw sth in. I guess you all know that we aren't to measure somebody or a group of ppl according to the miracles that happen among them...

However, I know of both, miracles inside and outside of the Catholic C. as well as the Protestant C.s (yes, there's an "outside" of both at once).
However, that doesn't indicate the true church or even true believers. Why should it? Never heard of any pagan miracle healers? Even some muslims believe in it and could tell you stories...

So, why fight about who has more and greater miracles? If they say they believe in miracles, then they have them. That's the conclusion you'll draw when you outstudied mankind.

However, I have a great link to offer to you. No reading, just watching.
>>>click me<<<

Just in case you don't want to check out that much, I highly recommend these two:
1. Glory cloud (carefully listen to the very beginning)
2. Watch a lame man walking

So, you can come and tell me how faked that stuff is, but, then don't tell me what happens in your church and stop discussing...
Or, you may be touched by what God is doing and rejoice in it. What do you care if they are RC or whatever when God doesn't seem to care as much as y'all do?

That were my € 0.02, I hope you liked them...

I might be wrong, but if you were referring this post to the OP, he was asking if there have been miracles outside of the Roman Catholic Church, because he wasn't aware of any. He wasn't saying that every miracle has taken place inside the Catholic Church/

 

[is54]

I might be wrong, but if you were referring this post to the OP, he was asking if there have been miracles outside of the Roman Catholic Church, because he wasn't aware of any. He wasn't saying that every miracle has taken place inside the Catholic Church/

Well, I was just referring to the atmosphere in a whole in this thread, but I don't want to tell the names, you may do that by careful reading...
Also, my post wasn't written offensive as yopu may think (also this one isn't).
In the love of Jesus Christ
Andrej

EDIT:
btw, I don't believe in Benny Hinn and most of the popular ones. I neither consider myself a protestant.

 

[livingproofGM]

Well, I was just referring to the atmosphere in a whole in this thread, but I don't want to tell the names, you may do that by careful reading...
Also, my post wasn't written offensive as yopu may think (also this one isn't).
In the love of Jesus Christ
Andrej

EDIT:
btw, I don't believe in Benny Hinn and most of the popular ones. I neither consider myself a protestant.

No, I wasn't implying that your post was offensive. Just thought I'd let you know, just in case you didn't.

 

[lmnop9876]

what about the blue light at the tomb of Christ every easter? i haven't seen it myself, and I know it isn't healing, but apparently the orthodox patriarch of Jerusalem goes into the tomb every year and prays, with hundreds of pll waiting. after a while, a kind of blue light comes out. it doesn't burn for a few seconds, but just lights up the room. then it goes around the tomb, spontaneously lighting candles. it isn't a fake, as the tomb is carefully inspected the night before, and the patriarch has no lights of any kind on him. i don't know how true all of this is, but an even more interesting story about the light. in the 1500's, an Armenian patriarch came to try and get the light to come out. with the help of the Turks, he forced the Orthodox patriarch to let him in, and began to call for the light. the light came alright! it jumped up out of the tomb, and split one of the pillars of the church around the tomb right up the middle. one of the Turks, seeing it, believed in Christ. he jumped from a 10-foot ledge on to the stone below, but was not injured. instead, the stone melted like wax, leaving his footprint in it. he was killed by the Turks shortly after.
i don't know how much of this is true, and how much is myth, but has anyone actually seen the light? i've seen photos, but not the real thing.

 

[Lotar]

It's true (though I haven't heard the part about the wax). He was a Iman (I believe) and he's a Saint now in the Orthodox Church.

I haven't seen it for myself, though I certainly hope to some day.

 

[Theophorus]

Miracles have been well documented in the Orthodox Church as well, however I offer this tidbit.


Elder Paisios (a monastic of some reputation) was approached by two young men insisting that the elder show them a sign. At which the elder asked one of the other monks to go fetch a hatchet. Upon having it delievered he asked the two youths to place their hands upon the table and instructed them to remember where their hands fell so that he would not get them mixed up when he reattached them. The two men fled in horror.