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I now understand why Protestants have to attack the vision at fatima so much
they can NOT believe it and still stay Protestant
I think the big difference between those having visions that you documented and what happened at Fatima and a few other places is the evidence of miracles (that could be scientifically substantiated) that occurred with these visions and still occur in many of these places.
the children were asked to pray the rosary, something that is anathema to many protestantsUnless you're just trying to be provocative, that doesn't make any sense.
the children were asked to pray the rosary, something that is anathema to many protestants
devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and asking people to go to confession is also part of the message from Our Lady at Fatima
so, either God sent Mary to tell the children these things or the visions were caused by demons or the children liars or lunatics
I'm not sure that that follows logically, but I'm OK with it in general.Evangelical Protestants have either follow the teachings of the Catholic Church or they have to convince themselves that the visions were demonic or false
the children were asked to pray the rosary, something that is anathema to many protestants
devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary
and asking people to go to confession is also part of the message from Our Lady at Fatima
so, either God sent Mary to tell the children these things or the visions were caused by demons or the children liars or lunatics
if it is from God, then God wants people to follow the teachings of the Catholic Church, so Evangelical Protestants have either follow the teachings of the Catholic Church or they have to convince themselves that the visions were demonic or false
Evidently it was for a great number of people who either had their faith boosted by the event or converted to Christianity because of the events they saw or experienced. But I guess that is the work of the devil.
Look, the person, Virgin or whoever or whatever it was, is believed to have talked to children! Do we honestly think that she came to deliver a message to theologians but decided to have children deliver it for her? If something is supposed to be a revelation, it has to be revealing.
I actually have no idea what the rosary is!
the Rosary is a collection of prayers and meditations on the life of Jesus and Mary and the Early Church
This may well have very specific meaning but again I'm totally unaware. A simple reading suggests it is essentially the same thing as "Holiness?"
Having actually read and understood what Catholic confession is taught to be all about, I can't voice an objection to it. My concern then becomes that no RC IRL could ever express anything close to that, and I only found it here on CF ... (this suggests maybe it's not practiced or thought of they way it's intended)
Not 100% sure what you mean by this, you mean that not very many Catholics take confession seriously and over simlify it or make it into something that it is not, then yeah i agree
Hopefully you can see it's not really that cut and dried, and this is too extreme to be true?
I am not sure how much I am exagerating, confession, purgatory, prayer to saints, the rosary, prayers for reperation, all these things are very Catholic, if these visions were true it would seem like the Catholic Church must be true?
Jesus said the line about "suffer the little children" not Mary, atleast I am mostly sureHmmm, I'm not so sure this line of thought applies here. We are talking about the Mary who had a child who said "suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God." Are we not?
So even if Fatima were a "theological revelation," making it known to children might indeed be how God would go about it! Yet it doesn't seem to "reveal new theology." (Does it?) In fact, "new revelation" should only serve the function of bringing us back to "the Faith once delivered to the Saints," right?
Now I'm certainly no expert on Fatima or anything else RC, but from this side of the screen it seems like someone following the gist of what was "revealed" at Fatima, might just fit into that category. Can we really make valid objections about that? [The only one I see is connected to the painting, where it says something about giving life. We beat that to death sometime back]
Hmmm, I'm not so sure this line of thought applies here. We are talking about the Mary who had a child who said "suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God." Are we not?
So even if Fatima were a "theological revelation," making it known to children might indeed be how God would go about it!
Uh...that was Jesus, not Mary.
Theology? Not likely. Pray the rosary, I suppose, but not what we've been discussing.
Miracles. Miracles still occur
at these places such as Lourdes.
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