Military warned evangelical Christians No. 1 threat

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Military warned ‘evangelicals’ No. 1 threat

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Soldiers in the U.S. military have been told in a training briefing that evangelical Christians are the No. 1 extremist threat to America – ahead of groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, KKK, Nation of Islam, al-Qaida, Hamas and others.


“Men and women of faith who have served the Army faithfully for centuries shouldn’t be likened to those who have regularly threatened the peace and security of the United States,” said Col. (Ret.) Ron Crews, executive director of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty. “It is dishonorable for any U.S. military entity to allow this type of wrongheaded characterization. It also appears that some military entities are using definitions of ‘hate’ and ‘extreme’ from the lists of anti-Christian political organizations. That violates the apolitical stance appropriate for the military.”


The briefing, which was given to an Army reserve unit in Pennsylvania, came from a U.S. Army Reserve Equal Opportunity training brief titled “Extremism and Extremist Organizations.”


The material mentions neo-Nazis, the KKK and other white supremacist organizations. Pictures are shown on various slides of people in Klan attire and Nazi flags. The significance of gang tattoos, and racist acronyms and the significance of numbers were also discussed.


While the material on gangs and racist organizations is similar to what one might receive from a local police briefing on gang issues, after teaching on neo-Nazis in the military such as Timothy McVeigh, the material makes an amazing link.


A slide titled “Religious Extremism” lists multiple organizations such as the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaida, Hamas, the Nation of Islam, the Ku Klux Klan and the Christian Identity movement as examples of extremist groups.


However, the first group on the list is evangelical Christianity. Catholicism and ultra-orthodox Judaism are also on the list of religious extremist organizations.


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Following the briefing, one of the soldiers who attended the presentation and describes himself as an evangelical told the trainer he was offended at the material and asked for a copy of the briefing. After receiving a copy, he forwarded the material to Crews.
The material describes religious extremism as those having beliefs, attitudes, feelings or actions that are “far removed from the ordinary.” It then elaborates by saying that “every religion has some followers that believe that their beliefs, customs and traditions are the only ‘right way’ and that all others practicing their faith the ‘wrong way.’”
Crews said it is astounding that soldiers were taught that a key foundation of the Christian faith is now considered extreme and compared to those who want to implement Shariah law.


“The idea of salvation being exclusively through Christ is a key doctrine of the Christian faith,” Crews said. “It is amazing that the trainer felt they had the authority and right to list evangelical Christian, Catholics and orthodox Jews alongside groups like the Muslim Brotherhood.”


When pressed as to how evangelical Christians and Catholics are a danger to those serving in the military, the brief does not provide any examples. However, it does provide several examples of Muslim extremists in the military. Among them are:

  • Navy petty officer Hassan Abujihad who emailed classified information to jihadists for possible attacks while serving on a destroyer.
  • Ali Abdul Saoud Mohammed, who was an Army Special Forces instructor at the Special Ops Warfare School at Ft. Bragg while simultaneously being a trainer for al-Qaida and traveling overseas to fight with jihadists.
  • Sgt Hasan Akbar, who killed two of his soldiers and injured 14 others at a military base in Kuwait when he threw four grenades into three tents where soldiers were sleeping. His reasoning was to prevent the killing of his fellow Muslims.
Conspicuously missing was one Muslim Maj. Nidal Hasan, who opened fire on fellow soldiers at Ft. Hood while allegedly shouting “Allahu Akbar.” Hasan’s rampage left 13 dead and 30 injured.


The Army has gone to great lengths to minimize the Hasan attack, going so far as to call it simply a case of workplace violence, similar to when an employee gets into a fight with another co-worker.


The Army has doubled down on its decision by issuing a report to Congress claiming that recent legislation that would label the shootings a terrorist act in order to help survivors and victim’s families would jeopardize Hasan’s chances of receiving a fair trial.


“Passage of this legislation could directly and indirectly influence potential court-martial panel members, witnesses, or the chain of command, all of whom exercise a critical role under the Uniform Code of Military Justice,” the Army said. “Defense counsel will argue that Major Hasan cannot receive a fair trial because a branch of government has indirectly declared that Major Hasan is a terrorist – that he is criminally culpable.”
Crews said the major problem with the training brief is that it relies heavily on material provided by the Southern Poverty Law Center which has claimed that groups such as WND, the Family Research Council and other pro-family groups are hate groups and extremists.


“We’re concerned the use of the SPLC list is not isolated,” Crews said. “The Army should make sure its equal opportunity officers across the military do not fall prey and use this SPLC list that identifies Christian and conservative organizations as hate groups as the basis for their briefing.”


He went on to say that placing evangelical Christians first on the list of religious extremists speaks volumes about how the SPLC views Christianity compared to other religious groups.


“This is absolutely abhorrent to all those who identify themselves as evangelical Christians in this country,” Crews said. “We know other commands have used the SPLC list in briefing soldiers about hate crimes and hate groups, but this particular briefing is the most egregious in terms of blatantly identifying evangelical Christianity as the number one extremist group in the United States.”


The material claims the number of “hate groups, extremists and anti-government organizations” has increased because of the prospect of “4 more years under a black president who many on the far right view as an enemy to their country.”


It goes on to state the purpose of the training is the belief that this issue “may be an indication of internal issues all services will have to face.” It advised participants that extremist organizations are inconsistent with the Army’s goals, beliefs and values regarding equal opportunity.


According to Crews, the Army Chief of Chaplains office told the Chaplain Alliance the training was an isolated incident and would not happen again.


Crews said while he accepts the explanation, the Army needs to go further and publically apologize to all evangelical Christians, Catholics and orthodox Jews.
“We believe the soldiers who attended this briefing should receive another class with the corrected material and the instructor should present a public apology. Evangelical Christians, Catholics and Orthodox Jews should be given an apology for having their faith called into question as extremists similar to the Muslim Brotherhood.


“We don’t want this briefing to multiply. If it is truly an isolated incident then it should be stopped right now and the instructors should be warned not to teach this material again.”

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You do realize this is an old story that happened several months ago, and the military already apologized and fixed their materials, right?

Glad that's all it takes to make you feel better. What does this tell you about some of the thinking in the military? That anyone with a strong point of view of any kind is a threat?

But they took it down and promised cross my heart and hope to die, not to do that anymore. Whew. Now we can go back to Duck Dynasty.
 
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Glad that's all it takes to make you feel better.

Naturally. I'm a Christian, and my God teaches forgiveness.

What does this tell you about some of the thinking in the military?

That someone made a really bad mistake or someone is an idiot. Considering the military has a far more extensive problem with tolerating non-Christians, such as base commanders pressuring soldiers to attend Christian events, I'm really not too concerned by a single instance that is more likely than not a mistake.

That anyone with a strong point of view of any kind is a threat?

Meh, no.

But they took it down and promised cross my heart and hope to die, not to do that anymore.

You don't sound very thankful or forgiving.

Whew. Now we can go back to Duck Dynasty.

Oh barf.
 
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You do realize this is an old story that happened several months ago, and the military already apologized and fixed their materials, right?
I read this thread earlier and thought about saying that same thing.
 
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Do you all really enjoy looking for the boogieman under ever bed? Why would you be "scared" of something like this. Either God is in control or He isn't. If He is, then this is nothing to worry about. If He isn't, then it's time to go look for the REAL God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God who sent His Son to earth.

Really, y'all act like you're scared of your own shadows.
 
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You do realize this is an old story that happened several months ago, and the military already apologized and fixed their materials, right?

I was just going to say that to the OP and then I had saw that it was already stated. Oh well, you beat me to it :)
 
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Yep. I mean heck, the URL even has a date nearly two months old.

So what?! The intention was there and it wasn't accepted. So they changed it for now and will bring it back at a later date when they think the military is more "ready" to accept it.
 
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Do you all really enjoy looking for the boogieman under ever bed? Why would you be "scared" of something like this. Either God is in control or He isn't. If He is, then this is nothing to worry about. If He isn't, then it's time to go look for the REAL God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God who sent His Son to earth.

Really, y'all act like you're scared of your own shadows.

You say that whenever you disagree with someone. My response? I'm sick and tired of having a president who distresses me so that I have to quiet myself and remind myself every day that God is in control. That should be a calm assurance, but it has become my saving grace because I have a Marxist president who wants to control everyone. He can't control Evangelicals because we worship another God. He can't convince us to think like him. He knows we are not a danger to anyone. We represent good and he represents evil. And we are not afraid of him and this bothers him most.
 
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I notice that the PDF of the presentation in no way supports the claim that evangelical Christians have been described as the number one threat. The slide in question gives a list of religious extremists, which includes, but is not limited to, evangelical Christians. There is no suggestion that the list is ranked in any order (there are simple bullet points, not numbers). And the accompanying text says:

Extremism is a complex phenomenon; it is defined as beliefs, attitudes, feelings, actions, or strategies of a character far removed from the “ordinary.” Because “ordinary” is subjective, no religious group would label itself extreme or its doctrine “extremism.” However, religious extremism is not limited to any single religion, ethnic group, or region of the world; every religion has some followers that believe that their beliefs, customs and traditions are the only “right way” and that all others are practicing their faith the “wrong way,” seeing and believing that their faith/religion superior to all others.

Which is true. Evangelical Christianity has 'some followers that believe that their beliefs, customs and traditions are the only “right way” and that all others are practicing their faith the “wrong way,” seeing and believing that their faith/religion superior to all others'. Nowhere is it saying that evangelical Christianity is a threat, just that it is one of a number of beliefs that includes elements of extremism.
 
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I notice that the PDF of the presentation in no way supports the claim that evangelical Christians have been described as the number one threat. The slide in question gives a list of religious extremists, which includes, but is not limited to, evangelical Christians. There is no suggestion that the list is ranked in any order (there are simple bullet points, not numbers). And the accompanying text says:



Which is true. Evangelical Christianity has 'some followers that believe that their beliefs, customs and traditions are the only “right way” and that all others are practicing their faith the “wrong way,” seeing and believing that their faith/religion superior to all others'. Nowhere is it saying that evangelical Christianity is a threat, just that it is one of a number of beliefs that includes elements of extremism.
Well said David.

I find it amazing that none of the people who have posted in this thread before you have even bothered to look at the slide show in question.

Had they done so, they would have seen that, not only is there no suggestion of a ranked order of threats, but there are pages and pages on extremist Islam, and on neo-nazis, and that the only mention of evangelical Christians is their presence in the list on that single slide. :doh:

Even if you're dumb enough to take that one slide in isolation, it's still worth pointing out that extremist Islam gets 6 lines on that list, while evangelicals get one.

So, OK, people were lazy, didn't check the story, and got duped. But will people learn from their mistakes? Will anyone who has previously read WorldNetDaily now stop doing so. Because this wasn't just a misinterpretation of the facts, this was an outright lie made up by WND. If a source lies to you, stop reading it.
 
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You say that whenever you disagree with someone. My response? I'm sick and tired of having a president who distresses me so that I have to quiet myself and remind myself every day that God is in control. That should be a calm assurance, but it has become my saving grace because I have a Marxist president who wants to control everyone. He can't control Evangelicals because we worship another God. He can't convince us to think like him. He knows we are not a danger to anyone. We represent good and he represents evil. And we are not afraid of him and this bothers him most.
Then you need to learn how to control your thoughts so you don't get stressed so easily over what is often nothing to get distressed about. Or perhaps you could learn to see your president the way God sees your president and commands you to do.
 
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Military warned evangelical Christians No. 1 threat​

Wrong on so many accounts:

The Army =/= the military
Army Reserve =/= the Army
An Army Reserve unit =/= the Army Reserve
An EEO seminar presented by a training officer at a Pennsylvania Army Reserve weekend drill =/= the military being warned that evangelical Christians are the No. 1 threat.

This story is a lie from months ago used by hucksters like American Family Association, Thomas Moore Law Center, the ACLJ, etc. to drum up donations from faux outrage.
 
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