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Military Recuiting

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Sybaris

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I retired from the Navy last Sept after 22 years.

I think it's pretty silly all the sophomoric attitudes towards the different services. There is not one that is better but there may be one suited for your desires. It's just like anything else, you grow to be a part of it and acquire an affinity for it. Why else would you have persons from all services defending it's place on the podium?

The thing is though, it's not for everyone. The best thing is for the boy to not have any preconceived notions of how it's "supposed" to be. I saw a zillion kids run through my ships who were so dismayed to find that the Navy, the military itself was not what they thought it was then ventured down a path of self-destruction and eventually booted out.

Before going into service a proper and mature attitude helps quite a bit. To us retirees, it was a profession, a career, a way of life, we owned it. Service was not some transient occupation like working at White Castle. That's another pothole on the road to either being an asset or a liability to the service. When a person joins and finds they don't like it, they often create discontent around them, drag others down, make the rest of their stay miserable and a lot more difficult than it really is. Impress upon your son that it's a professional organization, we don't want part-timers. You're either 100% in or 100% out.

In regards to all that, yes, some recruiters can be rather unscrupulous but just like any other "purchase"; you have to educate yourself. There are pluses and minuses to each service it all depends on where your sons interests lie and which service is most accomodating to them. The one factor to keep in mind, and this is a HUGE misconception amongst enlistees and civilians, the paper you sign is NOT a contract. A contract is a document that states obligations required of BOTH parties. Any service can do whatever they want with you once you're in. The government is under no obligation to give you the schooling or duty assignments that you think you're supposed to get. The enlistee is the only one that is obligated and the government is only required to give him 3 hots and a cot.

Normally things are not so dire until there is a conflict and then a lot can happen. Everything is based on the needs of the service, not the individual. Another thing is as we've seen lately, the involuntary extension of service of troops in Iraq. We hear a lot of complaints but if everyone read the fine print, that, and other similar issues wouldn't be a surprise. The sailor or soldier is government issue, a tool, nothing more. What he or she manages to take from that experience and reap from the education and benefits is icing on the cake as far as the government is concerned.

The bottom line is you have to approach service with a very realistic perspective. You may or may not get everything you want, usually you won't but then it was never promised.
 
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Before going into service a proper and mature attitude helps quite a bit. To us retirees, it was a profession, a career, a way of life, we owned it. Service was not some transient occupation like working at White Castle. That's another pothole on the road to either being an asset or a liability to the service. When a person joins and finds they don't like it, they often create discontent around them, drag others down, make the rest of their stay miserable and a lot more difficult than it really is. Impress upon your son that it's a professional organization, we don't want part-timers. You're either 100% in or 100% out.

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yeah it really all depends on what job you want to do. Trust me, you can get dirty in the Air Force, and you could get a lot of high-tech training in the Marines, it all depends what job you do. At least with the AF you get a sighned contract saying that if they fail to give you the exact job you want you can get out. seriously, the other branches say this and that, but ask for a contract at meps(military entrance processing station) and see what happens. I think Navy might also do contracts? not really sure though. I also think for the best interest of the nation, you should do the job you most want to do. Although MANY people change their minds about what they want to do after they are doing it. :) Oh, Air Force probably offers the best cross-training too, where if say you hate your job after 2 years(or whatever the time limit for that job) and you have 4 years left, you can change jobs and do something else. Not a lot of infantry in the Marines can say they can do that. :p
 
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Hello. I am an active member of the US Navy and I came upon your discussion while browsing the internet. I deserve you need someone who is currebtly active to give you an accessment of the military. As you can tell by the television. The present military is stretched like it never has been before. For an example. I have been deployed more than any ship since WW2. I haven't seen my mother in 2 years. I was stuck on a ship for 10 months straight on the USS Abraham Lincoln CVN-72. That's the carriar that Bush landed on. I don't think he could get the majority of a vote on our ship now or then. We currently are getting ready to go to Korea now too like the majority of our forces. I have served along with some Marines and I can easily say they are the worst branch with the highest turnover. Although all the branches are bad. The Air Force is the best family oriented branch. I joined after I graduated college since I struggled to find a job like many I'm meeting. Unless you plan on staying in for the 20 years..it's not worth it. I honestly can say that the Navy or military hasn't taught me leadership or made me better. Maybe worse... I haven't seen it improve anyone as well. It's just a place where young stupid kids go and get in trouble. People of good character succeed but these people could do better in the civilain world. The travel is overated. You see places where either the Navy has ruined the area or the natives hate you. I'm counting the days down. Don't beleive the patriotic rhetoric. The boys of the US military are violent, disruptive jerks or hicks!...and I'm sad to say I am part of it...email back if your son has questions.
 
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