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Arturis

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Military Pay Article:

On Nov. 12, Ms Cindy Williams (from Laverne and Shirley TV show) wrote
a piece for the Washington Times, denouncing the pay raise(s) coming service members' way this year -- citing that the stated 13% wage was more than they deserve.

A young airman from Hill AFB responds to her article below. He ought
To get a bonus for this.

"Ms Williams:

I just had the pleasure of reading your column, "Our GIs earn enough" and I am a bit confused. Frankly, I'm wondering where this vaunted overpayment is going, because as far as I can tell, it disappears every month between DFAS (The Defense Finance and Accounting Service and my bank account. Checking my latest earnings statement I see that I make $1,117.80 before taxes. After taxes, I take home $874.20. When I run that through the calculator, I come up with an annual salary of $13,413.60 before taxes, and $10,490.40, after. I work in the Air Force Network Control Center where I am part of the team responsible for a 5,000-host computer network. I am involved with infrastructure segments, specifically with Cisco Systems equipment. A quick check under jobs for Network Technicians in the Washington, D.C. area reveals a position in my career field, requiring three years experience with my job. Amazingly, this job does NOT pay $13,413.60 a year. No, this job is being offered at $70,000 to $80,000 per annum .I'm sure you can draw the obvious conclusions.

Given the tenor of your column, I would assume that you NEVER had the pleasure of serving your country in her armed forces. Before you take it upon yourself to once more castigate congressional and DOD leadership for attempting to get the families in the military's lowest pay brackets off of WIC and food stamps, I suggest that you join a group of deploying soldiers headed for AFGHANISTAN; I leave the choice of service branch up to you. Whatever choice you make, though, opt for the SIX month rotation: it will guarantee you the longest possible time away from your family and friends, thus giving you full "deployment experience." As your group prepares to board the plane, make sure to note the spouses and children who are saying good-bye to their loved ones. Also take care to note that several families are still unsure of how they'll be able to make ends meet while the primary breadwinner is gone -- obviously they've been squandering the "vast" piles of cash the government has been giving them. Try to deploy over a major holiday; Christmas and Thanksgiving are perennial favorites. And when you're actually over there, sitting in a foxhole, shivering against the cold desert night; and the flight sergeant tells you that there aren't enough people on shift to relieve you for chow, remember this: trade whatever MRE (meal-ready-to-eat) you manage to get for the tuna noodle casserole or cheese tortellini, and add Tabasco to everything. This gives some flavor. Talk to your loved ones as often as you are permitted; it won't nearly be long enough or often enough, but take what you can get and be thankful for it.

You may have picked up on the fact that I disagree with most of the points you present in your opened piece. But, tomorrow from KABUL, I will defend to the death your right to say it. You see, I am an American fighting man, a guarantor of your First Amendment rights and every other right you cherish. On a daily basis, my brother and sister soldiers worldwide ensure that you and people like you can thumb your collective nose at us, all on a salary that is nothing short of pitiful and under conditions that would make most people cringe. We hemorrhage our best and brightest into the private sector because we can't offer the stability and pay of civilian companies.

And you, Ms. Williams, have the gall to say that we make more than we deserve?

Rubbish!

A1C Michael Bragg

Hill AFB AFNCC"
 

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I agree and disagree with this article/pov. First of all the guy is leaving out the other benefits...free housing, medical...i think my husband said the 13 grand is actually around 19 grand, pretty good for a young man at 18, 19 first year in his career. And as they get promotions in rank the pay is actually very good. After 7 years my husband was e-6 (currently in the guard part time, so pay is not applicable) my husband would have been making around 50 grand...that is including the quarters allowance if you live off base, for us would be over a thousand a month. That is on top of the salary. Now ideally, I would love for them all to be pain 6 figures a year due to the sacrifice they and their families make. Is that realistic? nah, not at all. Also, let's not forget about the built in retirement account. after 20 years you get a decent retirement fund while not contributing to that ever....oh and you aren't buying suits and nice work clothing, that is a help. all in all, I don't think there is enough the government could do for our soldiers, but are they gettin screwed? nah, I dont think so....BTW I think you should move this back to news and current events. it would get more traffic there.

another thing my hubby just pointed out for those who want to argue that they arent treated well enough...you know an E4 and below is guaranteed 90 sq ft of living space. A federal prisoner, guaranteed 110. lame eh??
 
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Back in January 2000, a different Cindy Williams -- one working as a senior research fellow at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and was once assistant director for national security in the Congressional Budget Office -- contributed an op-ed piece to The Washington Post (not the Washington Times) in which she criticized a proposed 25% pay increase for military personnel (on top of a 4.85% raise that had just been enacted). In her article, Ms Williams maintained that claims that servicemen in the military suffered a 13 percent "pay gap" relative to the private sector were inaccurate, and that military personnel were already well paid compared to the average American.

The response quoted was indeed drafted by the airman named, although it was not published in The Washington Post

One of the benefits of a military paycheck is that I get all of my taxes back at the end of the year because I get to file just above the poverty level. Kewl...
 
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SqueezetheShaman said:
holy cow, i missed that....an actress is telling soldiers they make enough?? pot kettle you know the rest.
Ok, your majesty...It was a different Cindy Williams. I know this thread has been moving a little fast but I explained it all the way back in post # 4. One word - Ritalin.

BTW. I just spent $500.00 on uniforms last week. My annual clothing allowance covered it but I only purchsaed BDU's not dress uniforms which will cost roughly $700 more. As an E6 I made $32,000 everything included. And my retirement benefits have been drastically cut since I joined in 1985.

Not that it's a bad deal otherwise I wouldn't have stayed in so long right?
The airman that wrote the rebuttal is a whiner. I would tell him to try his luck in the civilian job market.
Always great talking at you.:hug:
 
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SqueezetheShaman said:
I agree and disagree with this article/pov. ..............


Me too. I retired after 22 years and one of my collateral duties in service was as a financial counselor for the Navy/Marine Corps Relief Society. I found that most of the people who came through my door complaining about their financial status were..................... drum roll please............................... living beyond their means!
 
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Mr.Pious said:
The officer pay is definatlly not to low, and most inlisted people live on base were they are given free housing and water and what not...
When I filed my taxes this year, mygross pay was $32,000. Everything included.
 
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