Mighty Angel

[Fireinfolding]

John 14:20
At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.

The truth is Fire, God and his Christ can be seen in the likeness of all his host.

But most believers have not yet come to that day.

I so wouldnt judge there because we can have the earnest of the Spirit, and yet the earnest expectation of the creature is that which waiteth for the "manifestation of" the sons of God. I believe we go onto perfection because everyone that is perfect will be like his master, and we are being made perfect.

So it was with his disciples

John 16:19 Now Jesus knew that they were desirous to ask him, and said unto them, Do ye enquire among yourselves of that I said, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me?

John 16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.

Col 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles;which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:


Thats our hope too, anyone who has this hope in him, even in respects to seeing him as He is ( purifies himself) to the same effect and we are saved by hope, that I might know him, to be like him. To me, we have to start somewhere, and Paul said this... Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after (however he adds) as many as be perfect, he is telling them how he "counted himself" (to the contrary)...Yet he adds....Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.


Something I have thought about, which is sorta kool how he is careful around attributing perfection to himself, because job speaks of the same, saying if I say (of myself) I am perfect, it shall prove me perverse, even though one might try to justify the saying so of oneself due to the very fact that God said so of Job (and thus one could attest that they are simply affirming the words of God) concerning themselves.

Know what I mean? God maketh our way perfect, he wills and works in us and he is the author and perfecter of our faith, so in a sense, just know others by their fruit, but even though (at one time or another) just as we cannot bear fruit without Christ, if we abide in him we surely will and have our fruit unto perfection, patience for the fruit All in good time.

I got an apple tree I have been waiting years for fruit, but it needs time, and pruning and all of that, I wouldnt judge my apple tree as a reprobate tree because its still young and its fruit comes with age, and growth and my careful attention to it.

Know what I mean?

God bless you brother

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

I so wouldnt judge there because we can have the earnest of the Spirit, and yet the earnest expectation of the creature is that which waiteth for the "manifestation of" the sons of God. I believe we go onto perfection because everyone that is perfect will be like his master, and we are being made perfect.

So it was with his disciples

John 16:19 Now Jesus knew that they were desirous to ask him, and said unto them, Do ye enquire among yourselves of that I said, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me?

John 16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.

Col 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles;which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:


Thats our hope too, anyone who has this hope in him, even in respects to seeing him as He is ( purifies himself) to the same effect and we are saved by hope, that I might know him, to be like him. To me, we have to start somewhere, and Paul said this... Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after (however he adds) as many as be perfect, he is telling them how he "counted himself" (to the contrary)...Yet he adds....Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.


Something I have thought about, which is sorta kool how he is careful around attributing perfection to himself, because job speaks of the same, saying if I say (of myself) I am perfect, it shall prove me perverse, even though one might try to justify the saying so of oneself due to the very fact that God said so of Job (and thus one could attest that they are simply affirming the words of God) concerning themselves.

Know what I mean? God maketh our way perfect, he wills and works in us and he is the author and perfecter of our faith, so in a sense, just know others by their fruit, but even though (at one time or another) just as we cannot bear fruit without Christ, if we abide in him we surely will and have our fruit unto perfection, patience for the fruit All in good time.

I got an apple tree I have been waiting years for fruit, but it needs time, and pruning and all of that, I wouldnt judge my apple tree as a reprobate tree because its still young and its fruit comes with age, and growth and my careful attention to it.

Know what I mean?

God bless you brother

I hear what your sayin Sis, here is one I like...

1 Corinthians 13:10-12

King James Version (KJV)



10But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Concerning them non bearing fruit trees though, you know the Lord has only allowed a certain amount of time for them to bring forth and bear fruit. Just as John proclaimed in his day the axe is at the root of the tree, and every tree that does not bring forth fruit shall be cut down and cast into the fire.

Peace Sis.

 

[Fireinfolding]

I hear what your sayin Sis, here is one I like...

1 Corinthians 13:10-12

King James Version (KJV)



10But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Concerning them non bearing fruit trees though, you know the Lord has only allowed a certain amount of time for them to bring forth and bear fruit. Just as John proclaimed in his day the axe is at the root of the tree, and every tree that does not bring forth fruit shall be cut down and cast into the fire.

Peace Sis.

Yes three and a half years is a given time frame, but if broken off he can still graft them back in, dont you think its possible to pull one out of the fire bro? It speaks of branches broken off and yet God is still able to graft them back in if they continue not in unbelief.

Hugs bro

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Yes three and a half years is a given time frame, but if broken off he can still graft them back in, dont you think its possible to pull one out of the fire bro? It speaks of branches broken off and yet God is still able to graft them back in if they continue not in unbelief.

Hugs bro

You mean 3 and a half years like 42 months, or like 6 months x 7 times= 1,260 days?

Yes God is able to do all things Fire, even restore those broken off branches of Israel back into the Olive tree they were removed from.

With man it might seem impossible, but with God all things are possible.

Now what did I do with dem marbles?

 

[Fireinfolding]

I dont know where you put your marbles LOL

Yeah dont forget after the three and a half years of not finding any fruit the plea to his Lord to "leave it alone part" for this year and dunging it, because that adds some time to it dont you think?

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

I dont know where you put your marbles LOL

Yeah dont forget after the three and a half years of not finding any fruit the plea to his Lord to "leave it alone part" for this year and dunging it, because that adds some time to it dont you think?

Blessed, and holy is he that comes to the 1,335 days

 

[Fireinfolding]

Blessed, and holy is he that comes to the 1,335 days

Well I sure wasnt holy in that short of period of time, I dont even consider myself perfect yet.

You have a number hangup you know Something can be the acceptable year but not meant exactly so many days cant it?

Like To day is the day of salvation, does that mean you have 24 hours?

 

[Fireinfolding]

Gotta make dinner

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Well I sure wasnt holy in that short of period of time, I dont even consider myself perfect yet.

You have a number hangup you know Something can be the acceptable year but not meant exactly so many days cant it?

Like To day is the day of salvation, does that mean you have 24 hours?

I suppose if one were carnally minded they would take all scripture as being literal and not symbolic, so why would one think different with numbers?

 

[Fireinfolding]

I suppose if one were carnally minded they would take all scripture as being literal and not symbolic, so why would one think different with numbers?

Ok, so your not saying we have exactly so many days to get our crap together? Because mine sure wasnt

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Ok, so your not saying we have exactly so many days to get our crap together? Because mine sure wasnt

That time I was speaking of started with Christ crucified, but is soon to come to a close for the fulness of the Gentile generation, as it did with the Jews back then when those branches were removed.

So yes dear, I was speaking of time in a spiritual manner, not in a literal manner. But even back then, if the Jews had known by the Spirit of God that 70 weeks was not refering to a 70 literal weeks, then they may have known the signs of the times, and also the year of their visitation. But they were blinded from seeing it, with the exception of a few whom God had revealed it to.

But then again, who is to say how many days each one of us individually have to get our act together? Only the Lord knows these things.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Well Im sure not of the elete few thats for sure

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Well Im sure not of the elete few thats for sure

Matthew 24:42
Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

All the Lord asks is that you watch, and be ready.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Matthew 24:42
Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

All the Lord asks is that you watch, and be ready.

Yeah that ye be found not beating your fellow servant, always looking for and anticipating his coming.

The evil servent says in his heart the Lord delayeth his coming

Mat 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

Mat 24:49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

Mat 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

1Thes 5:7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

Faith hope and love (these three)...

1Thes 5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

1Thes 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Im seeing faith hope and charity is that which remains

Revelation 3:2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die:

for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

The hour there seems to reflect much the same, the first servant was beating his fellowservants and saying in his heart his lord delayeth his coming, he certainly wasnt walking in faith or hope and charity, which appear to be those things that remain, but in some ready to die. In that one the hour is spoken of there as in revelation Rev 3:3

Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Yeah that ye be found not beating your fellow servant, always looking for and anticipating his coming.

The evil servent says in his heart the Lord delayeth his coming

Mat 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

Mat 24:49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

Mat 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

1Thes 5:7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

Faith hope and love (these three)...

1Thes 5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

1Thes 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Im seeing faith hope and charity is that which remains

Revelation 3:2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die:

for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

The hour there seems to reflect much the same, the first servant was beating his fellowservants and saying in his heart his lord delayeth his coming, he certainly wasnt walking in faith or hope and charity, which appear to be those things that remain, but in some ready to die. In that one the hour is spoken of there as in revelation Rev 3:3

Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

 

[Lion King]

I understand there is a difference, and no problem.

We are all servants of the Lord, just as we all make up the Body of Christ.
I was just trying to show the similitudes, and the likeness shown between the two.

I guess that is why we are told to put on Christ.

I have a question. Does Michael have a body in heaven?

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

I have a question. Does Michael have a body in heaven?

Angels are ministering spirits, and are no flesh. But can appear in the flesh.

 

[Lion King]

Angels are ministering spirits, and are no flesh. But can appear in the flesh.

Does the Son of Man have a body? I believe the answer is Yes.

Didn't you just say earlier that Michael resembled the Son of Man?

By the way, did that body you have described in your first posts look like flesh and blood?

 

[Fireinfolding]

Michaels name simply means who is like God? Though I wouldnt think that would be knowing an angel by his body parts or color, or hair would you Lion King? Paul says entertain strangers, for some have entertained angels "unawares" (means "unbeknowns" to them) And they would if they could only perceive after the flesh (sight of the eyes) or as seeing and perceiving not (at the same time) which is scriptural. Same with these brethren of mine, they ask, WHEN did we SEE you a stranger? and He says, when you have done it unto the least of these brethren of mine (whom we should know by the Spirit) ye have done it unto me (sorta like angels unawares). So they SAW but did not preceive, thus "unawares" (to them). Because He that is sanctified and them which are sancitified are of one, and he is not ashamed to call "them" brethren. Angels are ministering spirits but I dont believe they would be percieved after the flesh (or body) anymore then those in Christ (his actual body) should be, ye are either with him or against him, and Micheal seems like a safe bet, he's not against the LORD's he stands for them.

Know what I mean jellybean?

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Does the Son of Man have a body? I believe the answer is Yes.

Didn't you just say earlier that Michael resembled the Son of Man?

By the way, did that body you have described in your first posts look like flesh and blood?

Did I say it was flesh and blood? Are the children of God born of the flesh, or are they born of the Spirit?

All those who are in Christ resemble the Son of man. But we are told to know no man after the flesh, neither do we now know Christ after the flesh.