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<blockquote data-quote="Subduction Zone" data-source="post: 75926996" data-attributes="member: 321072"><p>Can you quote him? His statement about "preaching to the choir" was referring to those that accept reality and had nothing to do with religion. There are more Christians that accept evolution in the US than atheists that accept it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, you are wrong about evolution claiming that life arose from non-living chemical (by the way, all chemicals are "non-living"). Abiogenesis is a related but separate topic from evolution. Evolution deals with life after it existed. It does not specify or matter what the source of life is. Second you used a poor analogy. People from Iran will interbreed with people from France if given a chance. Darwin's finches do not tend to do that. That is the first step in speciation. Some of them are different species, some may not be. We see a range of speciation there. Lastly not only do all bears share a common ancestor. You share one with them. That ancestor was not an ape or a bear. But it was a mammal. You are still a mammal as are bears. No "change of kind".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I do not recall ever being taught that claim about Hittites. And I doubt if you can support the claim with valid sources. And Sagan had no hubris. When is awe about reality hubris?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now you demonstrate that you do not understand what is required for a "proof". By the legal standard of "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" evolution has been proven. It is the only concept that is supported by reliable evidence and that evidence is endless. I always suggest that we go over the concept of evidence and the scientific method so that people can argue properly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Subduction Zone, post: 75926996, member: 321072"] Can you quote him? His statement about "preaching to the choir" was referring to those that accept reality and had nothing to do with religion. There are more Christians that accept evolution in the US than atheists that accept it. Okay, you are wrong about evolution claiming that life arose from non-living chemical (by the way, all chemicals are "non-living"). Abiogenesis is a related but separate topic from evolution. Evolution deals with life after it existed. It does not specify or matter what the source of life is. Second you used a poor analogy. People from Iran will interbreed with people from France if given a chance. Darwin's finches do not tend to do that. That is the first step in speciation. Some of them are different species, some may not be. We see a range of speciation there. Lastly not only do all bears share a common ancestor. You share one with them. That ancestor was not an ape or a bear. But it was a mammal. You are still a mammal as are bears. No "change of kind". I do not recall ever being taught that claim about Hittites. And I doubt if you can support the claim with valid sources. And Sagan had no hubris. When is awe about reality hubris? Now you demonstrate that you do not understand what is required for a "proof". By the legal standard of "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" evolution has been proven. It is the only concept that is supported by reliable evidence and that evidence is endless. I always suggest that we go over the concept of evidence and the scientific method so that people can argue properly. [/QUOTE]
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