Michael Flynn - US must have only one religion

[childeye 2]

or that he's extolling the virtues of a nation not divided into several militant factions no matter what issue comes along. That's us.

Wouldn't it be better if the people were aiming to be of "one accord?" That's most likely what he was thinking. But of course, if he speaks to a group of patriots anywhere or at any time, it is a good bet that he'll be attacked with every ridiculous and extreme allegation that the attackers can think up, whether or not the claims fit the situation.

He could have just said we need to come together in the common good that will serve all of us equitably. That's a secular discourse. But of course he might be ridiculed for sounding like a "politician" by some types of patriots.

 

[Bradskii]

or that he's extolling the virtues of a nation not divided into several militant factions no matter what issue comes along. That's us.

Wouldn't it be better if the people were aiming to be of "one accord?" That's most likely what he was thinking. But of course, if he speaks to a group of patriots anywhere or at any time, it is a good bet that he'll be attacked with every ridiculous and extreme allegation that the attackers can think up, whether or not the claims fit the situation.

We didn't have to think up any. We just quote him verbatim. In context.

 

[Albion]

He could have just said we need to come together in the common good that will serve all of us equitably.

Well, OF COURSE, he could have done that. But that's beside the point.

It is wrong for people of a different persuasion to respond by slandering the speaker, just as it would have been wrong for a conservative to go into mock outrage mode, claiming that a liberal speaker had meant something outrageous or shameful which, however, was not based on anything but the attacker's say-so.

 

[Bradskii]

It is wrong for people of a different persuasion to respond by slandering the speaker...

The 'people of a different persuasion' are all those who support the constitution. And that would be you as well, I'd guess. Flyn is being thoroughly demolished as a person who would reject the very constitiution he swore an oath to uphold.

 

[Aldebaran]

Its the content at issue here, not the form of communication.

Oh, of course! As if worshipping God is so much worse than vandalizing property and assaulting people.

 

[Aldebaran]

Yes, it does matter. What would have been monstrously outrageous and howled down by both sides of the political divide not so very long ago now prompts a comment such as 'Does it really even matter?' Comments like Flyn's have to be called out. Vigorously. This will NOT become the new normal.

Surprising to find an issue that riles up the atheists so much as religion. Not arson, assault, people being killed in riots, Marxism being used to undermine our Constitution, or sexual perversity being taught in schools. But bring up the issue of religion, and we finally see where the priorities are for those who profess to have no real interest in religion.

 

[durangodawood]

Oh, of course! As if worshipping God is so much worse than vandalizing property and assaulting people.

Youre right in that talk is cheap.

But just floating the idea and convincing people that we should abandon our freedom of religion..... the stakes are quite high!

 

[childeye 2]

Well, OF COURSE, he could have done that. But that's beside the point.

It is wrong for people of a different persuasion to respond by slandering the speaker, just as it would have been wrong for a conservative to go into mock outrage mode, claiming that a liberal speaker had meant something outrageous or shameful which, however, was not based on anything but the attacker's say-so.

Is it slander to say Mr. Flynn wants there to be one religion in our nation before we can claim to be under God? Or is it slander to say Mr. Flynn claims we're not currently one nation under God, which by the way is at odds with the pledge of allegiance?

 

[Aldebaran]

Youre right in that talk is cheap.

But just floating the idea and convincing people that we should abandon our freedom of religion..... the stakes are quite high!

You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. The stakes are much higher when it comes to issues that are being distracted from: Border security, election security, inflation, China being in control of producing all our medications, middle east dependency for our oil (thanks to biden), a vulnerable power grid, children being propagandized with sexually explicit material, etc.

Those who want to focus all their attention on a comment by Michael Flynn are like dogs distracted by a squirrel. No sense of priority.

 

[childeye 2]

Those who want to focus all their attention on a comment by Michael Flynn are like dogs distracted by a squirrel. No sense of priority.

That's not fair. Flynn's not a squirrel but a respected voice for many Trump supporters, who has been given a platform to express his views.

 

[durangodawood]

You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. The stakes are much higher when it comes to issues that are being distracted from: Border security, election security, inflation, China being in control of producing all our medications, middle east dependency for our oil (thanks to biden), a vulnerable power grid, children being propagandized with sexually explicit material, etc.

Those who want to focus all their attention on a comment by Michael Flynn are like dogs distracted by a squirrel. No sense of priority.

Well I'm not freaking out about it. But this guy did have the ear of a US president. He not some nobody, unfortunately.

 

[Bradskii]

Surprising to find an issue that riles up the atheists so much as religion. Not arson, assault, people being killed in riots, Marxism being used to undermine our Constitution, or sexual perversity being taught in schools. But bring up the issue of religion, and we finally see where the priorities are for those who profess to have no real interest in religion.

There have been a couple of times my grandson has used that type of deflection when he has no real answer to what he's being told. It's a kind of 'Ooh, look. A pidgeon' response. Even he has given up on it now.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Well I'm not freaking out about it. But this guy did have the ear of a US president. He not some nobody, unfortunately.

After a much better president warned against it.

 

[variant]

That's not fair. Flynn's not a squirrel but a respected voice for many Trump supporters, who has been given a platform to express his views.

I think they should try it and see what happens.

Incidentally, the free practice of religion is a core value of the founding of the United States. The Pledge of Allegiance was penned in 1892 by a socialist minister who meant for it to be used in any country. "Under God" was added in 1954 by the encouragement of President Eisenhower.

 

[cow451]

or that he's extolling the virtues of a nation not divided into several militant factions no matter what issue comes along. That's us.

Wouldn't it be better if the people were aiming to be of "one accord?" That's most likely what he was thinking. But of course, if he speaks to a group of patriots anywhere or at any time, it is a good bet that he'll be attacked with every ridiculous and extreme allegation that the attackers can think up, whether or not the claims fit the situation.

I would question the definition you have of “patriot”.

 

[Aldebaran]

That's not fair. Flynn's not a squirrel but a respected voice for many Trump supporters, who has been given a platform to express his views.

And he expressed those views. Accept it and move on.

 

[Aldebaran]

Well I'm not freaking out about it. But this guy did have the ear of a US president. He not some nobody, unfortunately.

The ear of the person he had isn't even president anymore, so Flynn isn't in a position of power anymore. He's just another citizen of the United States voicing his opinion which is something every American has the right to do under the First Amendment.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The ear of the person he had isn't even president anymore, so Flynn isn't in a position of power anymore. He's just another citizen of the United States voicing his opinion which is something every American has the right to do under the First Amendment.

What he did to earn the invitation of that rally -- let alone their adoration -- therefore remains a mystery.

 

[Aldebaran]

There have been a couple of times my grandson has used that type of deflection when he has no real answer to what he's being told. It's a kind of 'Ooh, look. A pidgeon' response. Even he has given up on it now.

What's being told is nothing more than fear-mongering over an American citizen stating his opinion about something. But if you think arson, assault, people being killed in riots, Marxism being used to undermine our Constitution, or sexual perversity being taught in schools are just a "distraction" rather than more important than a guy standing on a stage and giving his opinion, then perhaps you should reevaluate your priorities.

 

[Albion]

Is it slander to say Mr. Flynn wants there to be one religion in our nation before we can claim to be under God?

Well, it's clearly to ascribe a shocking idea to a man who didn't say it.

I don't know how many different ways the defenders of that attack upon Flynn can slice it, but it's unfair.