Method for accepting science

[RickG]

Not one scientist claims that global warming is caused by man.
No not one.

Where do you come up with this garbage. Over 97% of working climatologists agree that the current warming trend is due to anthropogenic causes.

This is not opinion, it comes from the peer review literature. Please read the following study published by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Expert credibility in climate change

And all of the following scientific organizations have published statements saying that the warming of the past several decades is due to human causes. Please read each and every one of their statements.

• American Association for the Advancement of Science
• American Astronomical Society
• American Chemical Society
• American Geophysical Union
• American Institute of Physics
• American Meteorological Society
• American Physical Society
• Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
• Australian Bureau of Meteorology and the CSIRO
• British Antarctic Survey
• Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
• Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
• Environmental Protection Agency
• European Federation of Geologists
• European Geosciences Union
• European Physical Society
• Federation of American Scientists
• Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies
• Geological Society of America
• Geological Society of Australia
• International Union for Quaternary Research (INQUA)
• International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
• National Center for Atmospheric Research
• National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
• Royal Meteorological Society
• Royal Society of the UK

There are many who agree that we have added to the natural high cycle.

That is only a partially true statement and quite misleading. No climatologist claims that the current warming trend is 100% anthropogenic. As for a natural cycle, none have been in effect since the early part of the 20th century.

Global temperature (red, NASA GISS) and Total solar irradiance (blue, 1880 to 1978 from Solanki, 1979 to 2009 from PMOD).

 

[Greatcloud]

Rick G he said that the cause of the warming was natural and man made whats wrong with that ?



Sources

 

[Davian]

You really, really need a PR manager.

He'll be here soon.

Any idea how soon? Will it coincide with one of Jazer's asteroids?

 

[SkyWriting]

No, science does not do 100%. It is always open to falsification.

Perhaps you were just fortunate to work in a place where you were not required to explain your poor lab work, bias, and fraud.

A handful of places, and they all had the exact same component,
normal people.

 

[Elendur]

A handful of places, and they all had the exact same component,
normal people.

That's the problem then, "normal people".
Things would've been better if you had one or two of the real scientists:

(Joke )

 

[SkyWriting]

Where do you come up with this garbage. Over 97% of working climatologists agree that the current warming trend is due to anthropogenic causes.

You are implying ONLY said cause.
Citation needed for that.

I'll just quote from the first two to save time.
I'll pick quotes that support my position and my focus.

“Like the pseudoscientific rainmakers of yore, today’s aspiring climate engineers wildly exaggerate what is possible and scarcely consider the political or ethical implications of attempting to manage the world’s climate—with potential consequences far greater than any of their predecessors were ever likely to face.”

• American Association for the Advancement of Science
  

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  "include increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, which is significantly contributing to the warming of the global climate."
  
  

  [*]American Astronomical Society

  
  I could go through the entire list and not find one statement
  supporting your bald-faced lie that there are no natural
  forces causing global temperature increases.

 

[SkyWriting]

That's the problem then, "normal people".
Things would've been better if you had one or two of the real scientists:
(Joke )

I admit that those who were exposed for fraud are in the vast minority.
I can assure you that none of the incidents were made very public.
No cities print the entire police blotter like small towns can.

 

[Elendur]

I admit that those who were exposed for fraud are in the vast minority.
I can assure you that none of the incidents were made very public.
No cities print the entire police blotter like small towns can.

you lost me, I just posted a joke for entertainment (thought I would get someone to smile at least).

 

[Naraoia]

I could go through the entire list and not find one statement
supporting your bald-faced lie that there are no natural
forces causing global temperature increases.

You would have a little more credibility if you quoted where Rick claimed such a thing.

Who's making bald-faced lies now?

 

[SkyWriting]

You would have a little more credibility if you quoted where Rick claimed such a thing.

Who's making bald-faced lies now?

Just because your not following the conversation, doesn't mean I'm obligated to recap it for you.
I admit to making a lazy post. He has made the same claim multiple times.

 

[SkyWriting]

you lost me, I just posted a joke for entertainment (thought I would get someone to smile at least).

It was relevant because it was true. Good humor is tension relief for facts that are stressed. My wife wouldn't laugh. If I go on the computer when I can't sleep she is quite perturbed. And it doesn't help that the TV reminds her that 3/4 of all new relationships start online.

 

[Naraoia]

I admit to making a lazy post.

And then you keep on being "lazy" anyway.

He has made the same claim multiple times.

Where?

 

[Elendur]

It was relevant because it was true. Good humor is tension relief for facts that are stressed. My wife wouldn't laugh. If I go on the computer when I can't sleep she is quite perturbed. And it doesn't help that the TV reminds her that 3/4 of all new relationships start online.

I think you're just messing with me now in response to my joke so don't get upset if I don't take you 100% seriously if you answer to my post again

 

[SkyWriting]

I think you're just messing with me now in response to my joke so don't get upset if I don't take you 100% seriously if you answer to my post again

NAAAaaaa. People are always free to respond as they please.
This is the internet. Weirdo's travel in every kind of disguise.
Who you take seriously and why is entirely up to you.

What do I know? I had heard that females get treated poorly in chat rooms.
Well, my sister was living at my house at the time so one night I signed in on
my computer but used her profile. I found out that the ladies really do get hit
on by a lot of creeps in chat rooms. I also was chatting with one girl late at night
who was having a medical problem. Evidently she was very young and hadn't told
her parents and was looking for advice. I advised her to wake up her mom right
then and explain her problems. She ended up in the hospital and got treated.

So I don't even hold anything against people using fake identities.
The world is a big place with room even for fakers to do some good.

 

[Greatcloud]

NAAAaaaa. People are always free to respond as they please.
This is the internet. Weirdo's travel in every kind of disguise.
Who you take seriously and why is entirely up to you.

SkyWriting , I really appreciate your humor it brings life to these posts. I hope that I can be just as funny too.

 

[SkyWriting]

I'm not sure whether you are asserting a parody or being serious. Surely its the former.

Same for this post.
And don't call me Surely.

 

[sandwiches]

That would be both "anti-God" and "anti-religion". If you exclude something, you are "Anti".

Nonsense. Are you anti Jesus since you don't include him as part of a recipe for hamburgers? How about when you explain how to use a lawnmower? Maybe hamburgers and lawnmowers are built on "anti-religion" and "anti-God" science as well since God isn't mentioned in their recipes or blueprints, respectively.

 

[SkyWriting]

Nonsense. Are you anti Jesus since you don't include him as part of a recipe for hamburgers? How about when you explain how to use a lawnmower? Maybe hamburgers and lawnmowers are built on "anti-religion" and "anti-God" science as well since God isn't mentioned in their recipes or blueprints, respectively.

My mistake.

If you intentionally exclude something central to your training and education, you are presenting a case that is "Anti" to your background.

I figured that others could figure that out, but I overestimated.
Entirely my fault.

 

[SkyWriting]

SkyWriting , I really appreciate your humor it brings life to these posts. I hope that I can be just as funny too.

You are awesome Cloud-man.

 

[Doveaman]

Excluding the possibility is anti, science doesn't exclude the possibility however.
It's agnostic. It just doesn't care, if something spiritual or supernatural would gain evidence it would be included.

There is no evidence, therefore it never happened.

By your logic, science is not about reality, it's only about making up stories to fit available evidence. Absence of evidence is evidence of absence by your logic.

The all seeing eye of science: